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- Most 1/2 ton trucks are used for grocery getters. Few have significant hauling or towing miles. Initially, that makes the 28-29 mpg highway claim interesting to buyers. However, once you figure out the initial price premium for the ED ($4000), the price of diesel vs gas (currently over $1.00 per gallon, almost always at least 70 cents), the significant increased cost of maintenance (price an oil filter for an ED yet??? + fuel filters), and anyone that can do math can see that the slight increase in fuel mileage will cost them big time. You'll never break even, let alone save $$$. Factor in the hit you're going to take on trade-in because nobody will want one of the ED's when they are discontinued in 5 years and become the ugly step-child of the pickup world (my prediction, could be wrong, but NOBODY knows either way right now), and it just doesn't make economic sense to buy one.
It's not a Fiat/RAM - Ford - Chevy thing, its just simple math. ib516 wrote:
I think you guys are off the mark.
Most 1500 series trucks are not used for heavy hauling or towing. Most of them are used to haul people and the odd thing in the bed. Research says only 5% of them ever go off road.
Remember, this is an RV forum, and most of you think of things from this perspective, but most people do not buy a 1500 series truck for towing or hauling.
That's what 2500 and 3500 series trucks are for.
The only people I know that don't use their 1500/150 trucks for hauling and towing is "kids". Then all they want is the roar of a V8 equipped with big dual pipes - Fords and Rams around here.ib516 wrote:
I think you guys are off the mark.
Most 1500 series trucks are not used for heavy hauling or towing. Most of them are used to haul people and the odd thing in the bed. Research says only 5% of them ever go off road.
Remember, this is an RV forum, and most of you think of things from this perspective, but most people do not buy a 1500 series truck for towing or hauling.
That's what 2500 and 3500 series trucks are for.
X2!!- I think you guys are off the mark.
Most 1500 series trucks are not used for heavy hauling or towing. Most of them are used to haul people and the odd thing in the bed. Research says only 5% of them ever go off road.
Remember, this is an RV forum, and most of you think of things from this perspective, but most people do not buy a 1500 series truck for towing or hauling.
That's what 2500 and 3500 series trucks are for. jerem0621 wrote:
Love the quote from the CEO... "fuel economy is the number 1 customer need in a 1500 truck."
Pretty interesting statement IMHO.
Not necessarily surprising. It seems Ram is positioning the 1500 series to the non towing/hauling market and leaving the 2500 on up for the people that need/want this capability. They have been very successful in the mini van segment. Maybe they are going after a new segment, the "soccer dad" market.jerem0621 wrote:
Love the quote from the CEO... "fuel economy is the number 1 customer need in a 1500 truck."
Pretty interesting statement IMHO.
I would say he is a bit out of touch with reality.. :S.
Obviously fuel economy is important on any vehicle, but its sure not the number "one" customer need when they buy a new truck.
Probably about 4th behind--
1--How much can it tow
2--How much can it carry
3--Can it beat a (fill in your own choice here):W- All that hype for 1 mpg?
Big woop. - Love the quote from the CEO... "fuel economy is the number 1 customer need in a 1500 truck."
Pretty interesting statement IMHO. - This is very impressive, especially since the Ecodiesel is known to get at or above the EPA mpg rating.
This issue has been addressed too much already on this forum and many will flame away at my post, but I just prefer to be thankful that you can actually go out and purchase a new full size pickup that has an EPA highway rating of 29 mpg. Just a few years ago, the EPA highway rating on a Scion xB was 28 mpg (www.fueleconomy.gov in case you don't believe me). Yes, the diesel option is costly, but so is getting leather, navigation, sunroof, etc.
I personally don't like diesels, but I am glad that people have all of the choices that are currently available. - LOL ... 0-60 in 1 hour and 10 minutes.
