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- LantleyNomadIt doesn't look all that new compared to my 2019, which did not look all that new compared to my 2007.
Maybe seeing it in person would change my opinion,but from the photos it doesn't look totally new! - Pbutler97Explorer
FishOnOne wrote:
Lantley wrote:
The interior is a mild refresh. Somehow GM does not understand that their interiors are still inferior to the competition.
The entire interior needs to be redone from the ground up!
The interior is an all new design and from the looks it looks pretty good. The one thing I would hope they did, but I doubt it was to increase the depth of their window sill because that's where I like to rest my arm/elbow. The last model year GM had a good window sill was 1987.
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Have owned quite a few GM trucks since 94 and never had an issue resting my arm/elbow on a windowsill. Are you 4'-6" tall? Perhaps sit on a pillow? Are you planning on ditching Ford for GM? Lantley wrote:
The interior is a mild refresh. Somehow GM does not understand that their interiors are still inferior to the competition.
The entire interior needs to be redone from the ground up!
The interior is an all new design and from the looks it looks pretty good. The one thing I would hope they did, but I doubt it was to increase the depth of their window sill because that's where I like to rest my arm/elbow. The last model year GM had a good window sill was 1987.- LantleyNomadThe interior is a mild refresh. Somehow GM does not understand that their interiors are still inferior to the competition.
The entire interior needs to be redone from the ground up! Cummins12V98 wrote:
Front end looks better to me. Dually fenders different?
ONLY 36 gallons???
I agree the front end looks better. I think Chevy put a new front and interior on these trucks for the most part which is typical of a midlife refresh.- Cummins12V98Explorer IIIFront end looks better to me. Dually fenders different?
ONLY 36 gallons??? - blt2skiModeratorGrit
292 I6, 4.10s, Muncie 4 spd. Had better low end take off ability than a 454 with a th400 auto.
Yep, a negative 100 lbs tow capacity per gcw charts. Yet you could get that engine in a 16-20k gvwr milk truck or equal!
I believe my dad's 66 1500 with a 250 - 6 3 in the tree was higher rated....
Manufactures and there screwy ratings
There was a blurb in OM, ALL GM pickups could tow 4000 lbs no matter the gcw rating.
Marty - Grit_dogNavigator
blt2ski wrote:
All this recording gcwr issue will do, is potentially cause one to void the Warranty rating, if an issue is caused by overheating etc.
I can't think of one truck I've owned since 78-79, that have NOT exceeded the weight/Warranty/performance gcw rating on it at least once! My 95 CC SW K3500, I was pulling in a regular basis a 12k trailer, gcwr was 12500. I scaled at 21xxx once!
My 86 C2500 had a gcwr that was literally 100 lbs LESS than it gvwr.
Since manufactures do not set the max weight limit you can run down the road at, be it gvw or gcw. The only thing this feature can do is void a warranty. As long as it does not shut the rig down on a freeway or equal. Oh well!
MAYBE, it will finally get manufactures to let us know how aerodynamics, steep grades will effect the performance of a given rig too! Ie over max frontal area by 10 sqft, lower max wieght by 1000 lbs! If going up 30% grades lower max gvw by 5000 lbs.......
Marty
Was your 86 a 6 banger 3 speed with 2.73 gears or something? Find it hard to fathom that 8600gvw = 100lbs of towing capacity? - Pbutler97Explorer
MFL wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
ford truck guy wrote:
I think ( JUST MY OPINION ) that this is a good looking upgrade for GM.....
AND, I am curious how the GCW Alert will work out ??
Interesting feature. Can't help but wonder if the truck records these numbers while towing for future reference by the dealer or other motives in the event of an accident.
My thought too, when I read that, just another spyware for warranty exemption, when drive line fails.
Jerry
You RVnet detectives may have found a huge GM conspiracy lol. - manleyExplorerI had hoped they’d clean up that atrocious face. They did, but didn’t improve it any in my opinion.
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