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Groover
Explorer II
Dec 15, 2020

New version of Ford's 9.75" axle?

TFLtruck is reporting about a 3/4 float version of Ford's 9.75" axle for the F150 as something new. I know that the 9.75" axle has been around for ages but other than that I have no familiarity with it. Is this version actually something new? I have noticed in that through the 2020 model the highest tow ratings were not available with the 3.73 gear ratio that is often associated with the 9.75" gears but that changes with the 2021 model. Is this related?

TFLtruck really doesn't seem to know much about it other than it is holding up deliveries.

TFLtruck on 3/4 floating axle

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  • JIMNLIN wrote:
    looking at the design in the clicky shows the 3/4 full floater uses ball bearings instead of tapered roller bearings like a HD full floater.
    Having come from the era when ball bearings were much in use on those old cars and light duty trucks I would pass on having them on my truck.
    Granted ball bearing have much less rolling resistance than roller bearing but at what cost in long term reliability.


    I was an engineer for Timken for nearly 20 years so I know a little about bearings. A properly installed taper roller bearing can carry more load in a given space but is more likely to be damaged by dirt or misalignment. I have seen both enjoy long lives or suffer short lives depending on how they are installed and taken care of. I have also seen ball bearing outlast tapered roller in industrial applications were there is a lot of dirt and alignment is difficult.
  • 4x4ord's avatar
    4x4ord
    Explorer III
    Ball bearings can be reliable. There is an old power generating station in a ghost town named Sandon located in the Selkirk Mountains of BC. 17000 feet of wooden pipe brings water down the mountain feeding a turbine that has been running for over 100 years. It used to provide power for the town and a old nickel mine but now is tied to the grid. The shaft joining the turbine wheel to the generator is supported by the original wet ball bearings that have yet to require replacement. I suppose dirty gear oil might not provide the same level of lubrication.....
  • "One more step to making the 250 unnecessary...maybe the marketing guys are moving toward eliminating the 150/250/350 lineup and just having 2 models, light duty and super duty."

    All depends on sales volume. Possible.
  • looking at the design in the clicky shows the 3/4 full floater uses ball bearings instead of tapered roller bearings like a HD full floater.
    Having come from the era when ball bearings were much in use on those old cars and light duty trucks I would pass on having them on my truck.
    Granted ball bearing have much less rolling resistance than roller bearing but at what cost in long term reliability.
  • If it’s what I think it is, it may be similar to the old Jeep Grand Cherokees where the bearings and seals were pressed into the axle shaft. This is the same design the 9” used and the old Chrysler 8 3/4, although those had a drop out center section.
  • F-350 comes with a 10.5 inch diff.
    Dana 60 in the front.
  • So a 6-lug full floater? One more step to making the 250 unnecessary...maybe the marketing guys are moving toward eliminating the 150/250/350 lineup and just having 2 models, light duty and super duty. Would that be a bad thing? Most folks post here that the only difference between the 250 and 350 is the rear spring pack.