Newer F150 vs. old F250.

Your 250 weighs perhaps 2000 pounds more than the 150. This is part of the towing difference.

tragusa3 wrote:
That does sound like a deal. For conversation, if we use the "average" shoppers negotiation abilities, I feel the price difference would be $10-12k on average. For my wallet, that's not a negligible amount.

Also, for 7500lbs, the diesel is a want more than a need. I know that because that's what I pull, and I wouldn't accelerate or cruise any faster if I were towing with a tractor trailer.

Not debating the difference in abilities, but the need.

I did work pretty hard at it but at the end of the day I simply took the advertised bottom line from Dennis Dillon because I couldn't come close to beating it anywhere else, so anybody could have gotten the same deal I did.

As far as ability vs need, I agree completely. I could have made a properly equipped F150 work, just as I could have made a 6.4 Hemi work (for less than the F150 if you can believe that). But at the end of the day I simply didn't want to settle for less. Now if I was into gadgets or my wife insisted on a high trim level truck, I may have stuck with the F150 cause those diesels get into nosebleed territory awfully quick when you start adding options. Although I guess the half tons do too these days. Truck prices are ridiculous, new or used.

Edit - FWIW, to me the F150 Ecoboosts are clearly the best half tons out there these days, so I'm not trying to put down your truck at all. Had I went half ton, it would have been an Eco.

tragusa3 wrote:
Not debating the difference in abilities, but the need.

You are a very wise person. ;)

That does sound like a deal. For conversation, if we use the "average" shoppers negotiation abilities, I feel the price difference would be $10-12k on average. For my wallet, that's not a negligible amount.

Also, for 7500lbs, the diesel is a want more than a need. I know that because that's what I pull, and I wouldn't accelerate or cruise any faster if I were towing with a tractor trailer.

Not debating the difference in abilities, but the need.

Sounds like you got a great deal.

Samsonsworld wrote:
All I've seen are 2wd Tradesman for that price.

It's 4wd. Crew cab short box. It's a Tradesman but has all the base SLT options as equipped, plus quite a few extra things like trailer brake controller, anti-spin axle, protection and cold weather, etc. Sticker was $51k. It isn't overly fancy but it's not a fleet truck either. To me it has a nicer interior than an XLT trimmed Super Duty. I did buy at a volume dealer and that helped.

The F-150s 3.5 ECOs really are good trucks!

MPGs ? I get 9.5 to 10.5 mpg towing here in the flats of Fl and Ga.

IF you plan on towing, then the 3.5L Ecoboost will do a great job towing. the truck is lighter, and can carry more because of that. If you get the longbed, and Max Tow packages, along with making sure it has the maximum GVWR, you will have a great truck that is lighter than the F-250 and can out tow with it too!

You no longer need to have the '4.10 rear axle' because of the new 6 speed transmissions. The 4.10 rear axle did not get good mileage anyway, the engine spins to fast while driving at freeway speeds.

You might consider a 2011 - 2012, as they have good tow ratings too, but it is difficult to know if it has the 'tow package' without looking up the GVWR. The GVWR is posted on the drivers door - of course. The 2015 aluminum body F-150 had a 700 pound lighter weight advantage to the used F-150's.

My boss just bought a 2014 F-150 and I was telling him to get a 2015 with the 2.7L Ecoboost. He had no plans on towing anything, and it would use about $500 less a year in fuel - compared to his 2014 F-150 that has a higher curb weight, and 3.5L Ecoboost. I guess he wanted the higher HP 3.5L and did not care about the lower mileage. He also got a great rebate when he bought it in December.

If you just go to the Ford dealer, and take the 'pretty blue one' that you see parked in front, it probably will not have the required towing package, or higher GVWR that you might want to tow your trailer, or perhaps a larger trailer someday.

And the 2004 and earlier F-250's did not have much of a cargo rating, compared to the 2005 and later with a 10,000 GVWR. The SRW F-350 went from pre 2004 9,900 pounds to 11,400 pounds (give or take some weight rating) after 2005. So all trucks have improved over the years!

Good luck,

Fred.

All I've seen are 2wd Tradesman for that price.

tragusa3 wrote:
I tow the same GVWR as you. Go for the 3.5 EB if you get one. It tows that weight as easy as you could expect. It's a great match.

Colo Native, I keep hearing folks speak of the F250 diesels being priced similar to the 150 EB...I didn't see that when I shopped? I paid $32k out the door for mine. Are yawl getting the 250 diesel, CC, 4x4 close to that price?

Maybe half tons cost a little more now than they did in 2013? What I found on the F150s when I looked is I couldn't get a max tow/hd payload equipped model for less than $35-36k at best. XLT trim level so nothing fancy. I wanted 4wd with the longer wheelbase. This was for a 2014 model cause I kind of dropped the idea of wanting a half ton after researching them some, and the dealer was discounting them pretty good at the time cause they were the old model.

I bought the truck in my sig for $39k optioned about the same as an XLT F150, and there are actually a little better rebates available now than when I bought so I think I could hit close to $38k for the same truck. For that price difference it just seemed like a no brainer to step up to the Cummins.