No fuel cap?

hone eagle wrote:
Are getting ready for robo filling stations,you don't even need to get out of the car.
Driverless cars can be sent to fill themselves.
win

:) Hi, I still get out of my vehicle, but here in Oregon, it's against the law to fill your own tank.

I can understand the reason if it is for caps not properly tightened. But I cannot remember when I have had a vehicle that did not have the cap tethered. Who are these people losing their gas caps?

Are getting ready for robo filling stations,you don't even need to get out of the car.
Driverless cars can be sent to fill themselves.
win

Cummins12V98 wrote:
I have the "green" cap from genosgarage.com it has a magnet so I stick it to the fuel door while fueling. So the dirt/water in the fuel fill problem is solved. I do know "stuff" does get into the fuel fill port. There were some type of white crystals in mine when I bought the truck. The thing I DON'T like is not being able to lock the fuel cap.

There are jerks out there and I don't want to deal with having my whole injection system replaced while traveling or any other time. Yes I know it would be covered with my insurance but I don't want the hassle!

That's pretty much where I'm coming from too! Just thought if they don't intend to have a cap then a locking fuel door option would have been nice.

The reason they are going capless is to try and stop the dreaded "Fuel Cap Not Tight" warning and or the CEL code P-0440-0449?. These codes are "EVAP system malfunction" and only show up on gas powered vehicles. The issue with the capless system is when the fuel door gasket becomes worn or damaged it will cost more to replace it then it would to replace a fuel cap.

Diesel do not throw this code as they do not have a EVAC system and the reason IMO Ram Trucks did not put a latch on the fuel door. Still not a good idea IMO (not having a latch).

Don

sch911 wrote:
It's an industry thing, not Ram specific. The door has a seal that seals to the fill pipe. No need for anything else.

As an owner and fellow FCA EP I have to call BS on that! I own a 2015 EcoDiesel and find dirt along with water spots inside the fuel door! You do know Ram now offers a cap for our diesels right? It's part # 8221-4609-001 it comes up as a locking fuel cap but it is not. It is a black plastic push on cap with a tether to attaches to the fuel door and say "DIESEL ONLY" on the top.

Why does the Jeep GC have a locking fuel door but the Ram does not? Without a latch on the door it will and does bounce allowing dirt and water to get inside the fuel filler area. Not an issue for the DEF as it has a cap but the fuel tube is wide open and water and dirt will and does get into the fuel tank!

At $53,870 list price for my truck the fact that I have to buy a fuel cap for my truck is ludicrous IMO and almost every other Ram diesel owner I have talked to! This needs to be addressed and those caps Mopar is selling for $23+ should be given to every on of our customers as a sign that we truly do care about them and our products!

Don

Having lived in snow country for a longtime, I know that snow will get blown into every small cranny during a blizzard.

What was the big problem with the caps with the plastic leash that attached them to the filler door ? How could you lose the cap ? Why change ?


The only reason would be to save money.

Tim

:) Hi, if you want, Ford and other suppliers sell a locking gas cap for vehicles made without one. I will leave mine as is. (no gas cap)

I have the "green" cap from genosgarage.com it has a magnet so I stick it to the fuel door while fueling. So the dirt/water in the fuel fill problem is solved. I do know "stuff" does get into the fuel fill port. There were some type of white crystals in mine when I bought the truck. The thing I DON'T like is not being able to lock the fuel cap.

There are jerks out there and I don't want to deal with having my whole injection system replaced while traveling or any other time. Yes I know it would be covered with my insurance but I don't want the hassle!

wilber1 wrote:
My Audi has a cap but I really like the way the fuel door works. No button. If the car is locked, the fuel door is locked. If the car is unlocked, the fuel door is unlocked. You just give it a little push on the edge and it pops open. Anyone else have this system?

Sounds like how my 2015 Impala fuel door and cap work.