Ordering a new truck is frustating

harmanrk wrote:

parker.rowe wrote:
It would be nice to be able to build a more base level truck and pay the upcharge for the better engine(say a GM 1500 with the 6.2) without adding a sunroof, navigation, leather, and a coffee maker.

You have that package all wrong.... You are getting the coffee maker package. Of course you'll need leather seats, so spills clean up easy, navigation to direct you to the scenic overlook to enjoy the coffee, and sunroof to help you enjoy your sunrise coffee at the overlook. Unfortunately, that have to saddle you with the 6.2, as the HD alternator on it is required to power the coffee maker. :D

LMAO !!!!!

Bowti wrote:
It bothers me as to what options can't be ordered with other options. I understand some options require things like axle ratio with HD towing, but some of the other limitations frustrate me.

Ok exactly what options overlap or are mutually exclusive?

parker.rowe wrote:
It would be nice to be able to build a more base level truck and pay the upcharge for the better engine(say a GM 1500 with the 6.2) without adding a sunroof, navigation, leather, and a coffee maker.

You have that package all wrong.... You are getting the coffee maker package. Of course you'll need leather seats, so spills clean up easy, navigation to direct you to the scenic overlook to enjoy the coffee, and sunroof to help you enjoy your sunrise coffee at the overlook. Unfortunately, that have to saddle you with the 6.2, as the HD alternator on it is required to power the coffee maker. :D

Most of the dealers here all carry mostly high end trucks in the HD lines.

My local GMC dealer only has diesel Denali's on the lot. But I understand that they are going to stock what sells.

I find it frustrating as well trying to spec a truck and find the magic combination that lets you get that one option you want.

It would be nice to be able to build a more base level truck and pay the upcharge for the better engine(say a GM 1500 with the 6.2) without adding a sunroof, navigation, leather, and a coffee maker.

Fordlover wrote:

Groover wrote:

Fordlover wrote:
I dunno, seemed easy to me. Went to the fleet guy, we went through the order screen and I selected all the options I wanted. 5 weeks later the truck was here. Was able to get the ultimate lariat package with all the options, and wasn't forced to get the moonroof (which I didn't want).

I will say the HD trucks (Fords at least) seem to be the most configurable out there.

You may have gotten everything that you wanted but you did not get max payload package. To get it you have to forfeit a lot of other stuff. I am little sore that Ford loves to advertise the highest payload in the industry then makes it very hard to get and requires compromises if you do get it.

I ended up with 2980 lbs of payload, so I think I'm in good shape.;) I ordered a gas F-250, which is what I meant by HD, not the HD payload F-150.

Dang, I only ended up with 2355 lbs of payload (On par with what the 150 HDPP offers), but that 800 lbs option give me all the torque I will ever need.

Groover wrote:

Fordlover wrote:
I dunno, seemed easy to me. Went to the fleet guy, we went through the order screen and I selected all the options I wanted. 5 weeks later the truck was here. Was able to get the ultimate lariat package with all the options, and wasn't forced to get the moonroof (which I didn't want).

I will say the HD trucks (Fords at least) seem to be the most configurable out there.

You may have gotten everything that you wanted but you did not get max payload package. To get it you have to forfeit a lot of other stuff. I am little sore that Ford loves to advertise the highest payload in the industry then makes it very hard to get and requires compromises if you do get it.

I ended up with 2980 lbs of payload, so I think I'm in good shape.;) I ordered a gas F-250, which is what I meant by HD, not the HD payload F-150.

Groover wrote:

Fordlover wrote:
I dunno, seemed easy to me. Went to the fleet guy, we went through the order screen and I selected all the options I wanted. 5 weeks later the truck was here. Was able to get the ultimate lariat package with all the options, and wasn't forced to get the moonroof (which I didn't want).

I will say the HD trucks (Fords at least) seem to be the most configurable out there.

You may have gotten everything that you wanted but you did not get max payload package. To get it you have to forfeit a lot of other stuff. I am little sore that Ford loves to advertise the highest payload in the industry then makes it very hard to get and requires compromises if you do get it.

Does does Ford still take stuff off their trucks that nobody uses in order to calculate their max payload numbers? You know, the center console, spare tire, radio and other such things most trucks don't have?

Fordlover wrote:
I dunno, seemed easy to me. Went to the fleet guy, we went through the order screen and I selected all the options I wanted. 5 weeks later the truck was here. Was able to get the ultimate lariat package with all the options, and wasn't forced to get the moonroof (which I didn't want).

I will say the HD trucks (Fords at least) seem to be the most configurable out there.

You may have gotten everything that you wanted but you did not get max payload package. To get it you have to forfeit a lot of other stuff. I am little sore that Ford loves to advertise the highest payload in the industry then makes it very hard to get and requires compromises if you do get it.

JALLEN4 wrote:
The dealer could care less what options you buy. Buying more options does not equate to making more money for them. Their profit is based on the sale price minus the cost of any particular unit.

You overlook that two are directly linked. The dealers stock cars with more options than what one might order, because it gives them the most profit potential. Every option on the vehicle adds to the invoice a certain amount, and to the MSRP a different (higher) amount. Therefore a vehicle with more options has more profit 'built in' to it from the start.

Now, you can saw that the MSRP is not the same as the sale price, which in most cases is true, but that difference is simple the amount of the potential profit, that the dealer is willing to give up, to move the unit. Its also worth noting that the vehicle with the most profit built into the MSRP, is also the vehicle that allows the dealer the most negotiating room on that sale price.

This holds true for the manufactures as well, as there is the Invoice price the sell the vehicle/option to the dealer at, then there is the 'cost' of the item from the OEM supplier to the manufacturer, and invoice is always more than cost.

The dealer could care less what options you buy. Buying more options does not equate to making more money for them. Their profit is based on the sale price minus the cost of any particular unit. The option limitations are the manufacturers doing based on engineering and manufacturing concerns and profits. Dealers order what they sell, not necessarily "loaded" units. Heavily optioned units actually increase their carrying costs unless they turn them more often.