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onelv
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May 21, 2014

Purchasing our first TT - is this set up safe?

Hi Everybody,

This will be our first TT. I've only towed tent trailers in the past. I was hoping for your advice if towing a 31BHPR (Premier by Ultra LIte by Bullet) will be too big of a jump? It weighs just under 6500lbs.

Also, is our set up safe? - My two vehicle is a 2014 Mercedes GL350 (diesel) with max tow of 7500lbs.

I appreciate any advice.

Thank-you
  • Arizona Kid wrote:
    6,500 is the dry weight, looks like 8,000 is the wet weight. Plus the tongue weight is 795.
    Way too much trailer for your set up. Salesmen will say anything for a sale, even if it might endanger your families life. :(

    Shipping Weight 6457
    Carrying Capacity 1543
    Hitch 795
    Length 35' 4"
    Height 10' 11"
    Fresh Water 41
    Waste Water 30
    Gray Water 30
    LPG 40
    Tire Size ST225/75R15D
    Type Travel Trailers
    Region All


    thanks...I guess I'm looking for a different trailer model and new dealership!

    What are your thoughts on this model-http://www.kodiak-rv.com/floorplan/ultimate-package/240bhsl/

    I
  • 6,500 is the dry weight, looks like 8,000 is the wet weight. Plus the tongue weight is 795.
    Way too much trailer for your set up. Salesmen will say anything for a sale, even if it might endanger your families life. :(

    Shipping Weight 6457
    Carrying Capacity 1543
    Hitch 795
    Length 35' 4"
    Height 10' 11"
    Fresh Water 41
    Waste Water 30
    Gray Water 30
    LPG 40
    Tire Size ST225/75R15D
    Type Travel Trailers
    Region All
  • Lol. The salesman said it would be fine? Lol. Yeah, its fine that hes not pulling it.
  • hbillsmith wrote:
    I tow with the MB GL450 and it has the same capacities. Your biggest issue will be staying within the 600# tongue weight. MB doesnt give you more if you use a weight distr. hitch so you will need an ultra light with a tongue weight near 500#. Models with rear kitchen, rear entertainment have the lowest hitch weights. Also get the Anderson WDH its the lightest and does a great job controling sway. My trailer is a Dutchmen Kodiac 242RESL?


    Thank-you for the advice. I'll look into the Anderson WDH. I have noted the tongue weight as well.

    Sweet trailer btw!
  • mbopp wrote:
    Welcome to the forum.

    Is 6500# the real weight, or the brochure weight? Most TT's weigh 300-500# more than the advirtised weight due to the "optional" equipment that's really standard. And you'll have 700-1000# of gear once you're ready to go.

    What's the GCVW on the Mercedes? And the payload? I have a feeling that it'll be way too much trailer for the GL350.

    What's the wheelbase on the Mercedes? Even with a good hitch I have a feeling it'll be a case of the tail wagging the dog.

    And don't listen to the salesman when he says "Sure, you can tow that." All he wants to do is make a sale and has no legal requirement to make sure you're safe.


    Thanks!! I know the wheelbase is 121.0", I'll have to look up the GCVW and the payload.

    Yes, the TT weighed 6400lbs with all the included options and the salesman said it was fine? hmmm
  • I tow with the MB GL450 and it has the same capacities. Your biggest issue will be staying within the 600# tongue weight. MB doesnt give you more if you use a weight distr. hitch so you will need an ultra light with a tongue weight near 500#. Models with rear kitchen, rear entertainment have the lowest hitch weights. Also get the Anderson WDH its the lightest and does a great job controling sway. My trailer is a Dutchmen Kodiac 242RESL?
  • Welcome to the forum.

    Is 6500# the real weight, or the brochure weight? Most TT's weigh 300-500# more than the advirtised weight due to the "optional" equipment that's really standard. And you'll have 700-1000# of gear once you're ready to go.

    What's the GCVW on the Mercedes? And the payload? I have a feeling that it'll be way too much trailer for the GL350.

    What's the wheelbase on the Mercedes? Even with a good hitch I have a feeling it'll be a case of the tail wagging the dog.

    And don't listen to the salesman when he says "Sure, you can tow that." All he wants to do is make a sale and has no legal requirement to make sure you're safe.
  • kaydeejay wrote:
    onelv wrote:
    Hi Everybody,

    This will be our first TT. I've only towed tent trailers in the past. I was hoping for your advice if towing a 31BHPR (Premier by Ultra LIte by Bullet) will be too big of a jump? It weighs just under 6500lbs.

    Also, is our set up safe? - My two vehicle is a 2014 Mercedes GL350 (diesel) with max tow of 7500lbs.

    I appreciate any advice.

    Thank-you
    First of all, welcome to the Forum.

    If that 6500# is the empty weight, figure 1000# more once loaded.
    And that 7500# tow rating assumes a 150# driver in the vehicle. Any more than that has to be subtracted from the 7500#.
    Can your GL350 available payload rating handle a 1000# tongue weight along with all occupants and "stuff"?
    I suspect you are going to over your ratings, both GVWR, GAWR and trailer weight. Maybe even hitch ratings as well.
    Towing would likely not be a fun experience.


    Thanks!! What do you think is the max weight of the TT I should be shopping for?
  • onelv wrote:
    Hi Everybody,

    This will be our first TT. I've only towed tent trailers in the past. I was hoping for your advice if towing a 31BHPR (Premier by Ultra LIte by Bullet) will be too big of a jump? It weighs just under 6500lbs.

    Also, is our set up safe? - My two vehicle is a 2014 Mercedes GL350 (diesel) with max tow of 7500lbs.

    I appreciate any advice.

    Thank-you
    First of all, welcome to the Forum.

    If that 6500# is the empty weight, figure 1000# more once loaded.
    And that 7500# tow rating assumes a 150# driver in the vehicle. Any more than that has to be subtracted from the 7500#.
    Can your GL350 available payload rating handle a 1000# tongue weight along with all occupants and "stuff"?
    I suspect you are going to over your ratings, both GVWR, GAWR and trailer weight. Maybe even hitch ratings as well.
    Towing would likely not be a fun experience.

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