Quality TT

3oaks wrote:

SidecarFlip wrote:
In today's rushed build market, they are all a crapshoot.

That says it all!

Build quality stinks, even on our 2016 Arctic Fox TT.

Spent weeks going over it and repairing shoddy workmanship. Although I will say, overall, it is a solid trailer built with good materials. But no quality control in the build process...........ugh! Vo-Tech schools could do much better work.

I think all quality control falls back on the dealers.

ScottG wrote:

Colo Native wrote:
Scott, do you have the rear camera and if so does it work well, We are going back and forth on the trifold or the sofa bed with air mattress not the cross stich I seen the video and it is not a good setup. also do they pre wire the roof with solar and satellite?

I did not get the B/U camera. It was something like $700 and I have a wife for that!
The roof is prewired for solar. There's a connection up there with wires going down to the existing solar controller (20W panel on top of AC cover) where they are coiled up behind it. There's another solar connection at the front, drivers side of the trailer. It's wires are routed to the area just behind the batteries where it's just coiled up and dead ended.
Just checked and there's no sat connection on the roof. It's on the street side of the trailer. It would not be too hard to run another cable up to the roof from the entertainment system though. It shares cabinet space with the fridge so it would be easy to fish a cable up through the fridge cavity and its vent.
Never had an air bed but it seems like someone who uses it nightly might get tired of having to blow it up every night. Either the air or tri-fold would be good for occasional use I think. Of course, maybe the air bed is more comfortable than the full Hide a Bed.

One other thing I thought of, the master BR mattress is junk. It looks good with it's pillow top but after 10 nights of sleeping on it, my wife and I (130# & 170#) have left two large dents in it. It looks worn out already.
We'll replace it next year.

All bed mattress's are junk except maybe sleep number. I am trying to get a price sheet for options from Northwoods

You could do what we thought was a way to get around traditional rv construction. ATC 28 front bedroom and made the garage a living room.

So far its the best rv we have ever had. Different, but works and no surprises.

SidecarFlip wrote:
In today's rushed build market, they are all a crapshoot.

That says it all!

Build quality stinks, even on our 2016 Arctic Fox TT.

Spent weeks going over it and repairing shoddy workmanship. Although I will say, overall, it is a solid trailer built with good materials. But no quality control in the build process...........ugh! Vo-Tech schools could do much better work.

Colo Native wrote:
Scott, do you have the rear camera and if so does it work well, We are going back and forth on the trifold or the sofa bed with air mattress not the cross stich I seen the video and it is not a good setup. also do they pre wire the roof with solar and satellite?

I did not get the B/U camera. It was something like $700 and I have a wife for that!
The roof is prewired for solar. There's a connection up there with wires going down to the existing solar controller (20W panel on top of AC cover) where they are coiled up behind it. There's another solar connection at the front, drivers side of the trailer. It's wires are routed to the area just behind the batteries where it's just coiled up and dead ended.
Just checked and there's no sat connection on the roof. It's on the street side of the trailer. It would not be too hard to run another cable up to the roof from the entertainment system though. It shares cabinet space with the fridge so it would be easy to fish a cable up through the fridge cavity and its vent.
Never had an air bed but it seems like someone who uses it nightly might get tired of having to blow it up every night. Either the air or tri-fold would be good for occasional use I think. Of course, maybe the air bed is more comfortable than the full Hide a Bed.

One other thing I thought of, the master BR mattress is junk. It looks good with it's pillow top but after 10 nights of sleeping on it, my wife and I (130# & 170#) have left two large dents in it. It looks worn out already.
We'll replace it next year.

Scott, do you have the rear camera and if so does it work well, We are going back and forth on the trifold or the sofa bed with air mattress not the cross stich I seen the video and it is not a good setup. also do they pre wire the roof with solar and satellite?

kerrlakeRoo wrote:
Outdoors RV mountain series is a possibility. And I believe they have a Denver dealer.

X2

No, this is a normal hide-a-bed. We had the tri-fold and were tired of making it up everynight. This one is a little more comfortable.
We got the 50A option as-well. They made a mistake on ours and put a large sky light where a normal 14" opening for the second AC should have been. It is going back to the factory next week to get that corrected and have the second AC installed.
I wondered the same thing about swapping the tabel and couch. With a normal table and chairs I think you could do it. In that configuration, the whole area of the slide would be wide open with nothing bolted down. The only minor thing would be the windows wouldn't be in the exact right spots but that's no biggie.
I would (and did) opt for the 15K main AC.
The Silver Fox models have some nice features like the yacht type carpeting on the ceiling, double pane windows and fiberglass caps on both ends. The trailer is noticeably more quiet inside than our last one.

ScottG wrote:
Yes on the sofa bed. We needed it for our disabled adult son. It doesn't seem very comfortable to my old bones but he likes it. The mattress is about 3" thick and the mechanism works very well. We leave all the sheets, blanket and even the pillow in it when stored.
Our dealer immediately took $10K off the top before we even negotiated. We had a trade-in and got a very good price on it.
So it's hard to say what the bottom line is but I'm sure we got around 23%+ off.
Considering almost all AF's are sold before they hit the lot (including ours), we did pretty good.

Have you seen this video of the 32A? Link

I have seen the video and they sent me a dvd. Did you get the standard tri-fold sofa? I called they factory and they can put a non ducted ac in the bed room with 50 amp service. I don't have any close to look at but Lazy Days north of me have some other classic fox but not silver I guess I can get and idea. I know I am going to have to order it and I want to make sure I get it right. I was wondering if you can switch the couch and chairs put the couch by the back wall. I am trying to sell my FW before I order it because you always take a beating on trades

Yes on the sofa bed. We needed it for our disabled adult son. It doesn't seem very comfortable to my old bones but he likes it. The mattress is about 3" thick and the mechanism works very well. We leave all the sheets, blanket and even the pillow in it when stored.
Our dealer immediately took $10K off the top before we even negotiated. We had a trade-in and got a very good price on it.
So it's hard to say what the bottom line is but I'm sure we got around 23%+ off.
Considering almost all AF's are sold before they hit the lot (including ours), we did pretty good.

Have you seen this video of the 32A? Link