Question on dual cams
Can I use this type of bar and just purchase the dual cam part and convert? With my trailer, the friction sway is OK i just want something better.
Thanks
PS this was my storage method not towing method for the bars :)
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Can I use this type of bar and just purchase the dual cam part and convert? With my trailer, the friction sway is OK i just want something better.
Thanks
PS this was my storage method not towing method for the bars :)
Huntindog wrote:
ScottG wrote:
Huntindog wrote:
ScottG wrote:
The DC is NOT a active type sway control. It is a friction control. It utilizes friction somewhat differently. There are some threads that go into this in depth. Our resident engineer Ron Gratz is involved in most of them.
I've had both the friction type and a DC and there was no comparison. The DC is an "active" system that applies more pressure as needed and just does a better job of keeping the trailer tracking straight behind you.
The friction units worked OK for a few years but eventually wore out and would get contaminated with rain, road scum and grease and would eventually have little effect and get noisy.
Yes I know about those discussions and both I and Reese disagree with them completely.
The Reese uses spring tension.
I don't know where you got that but,,, One of those threads has a quote from Reese stating that the DC is friction based.
I have read all those posts and never saw that. PROVE IT!ScottG wrote:
Huntindog wrote:
ScottG wrote:
The DC is NOT a active type sway control. It is a friction control. It utilizes friction somewhat differently. There are some threads that go into this in depth. Our resident engineer Ron Gratz is involved in most of them.
I've had both the friction type and a DC and there was no comparison. The DC is an "active" system that applies more pressure as needed and just does a better job of keeping the trailer tracking straight behind you.
The friction units worked OK for a few years but eventually wore out and would get contaminated with rain, road scum and grease and would eventually have little effect and get noisy.
Yes I know about those discussions and both I and Reese disagree with them completely.
The Reese uses spring tension.
I don't know where you got that but,,, One of those threads has a quote from Reese stating that the DC is friction based.Huntindog wrote:
ScottG wrote:
The DC is NOT a active type sway control. It is a friction control. It utilizes friction somewhat differently. There are some threads that go into this in depth. Our resident engineer Ron Gratz is involved in most of them.
I've had both the friction type and a DC and there was no comparison. The DC is an "active" system that applies more pressure as needed and just does a better job of keeping the trailer tracking straight behind you.
The friction units worked OK for a few years but eventually wore out and would get contaminated with rain, road scum and grease and would eventually have little effect and get noisy.
Yes I know about those discussions and both I and Reese disagree with them completely. Furthermore it's "active" because the spring rate increases as sway increases and the trailer moves out of line with the TV. You can lubricate the Reese anyplace you want and it has no effect on the sway control.
The Reese uses spring tension just as it describes in all it literature but I understand some people simply can't wrap their heads around it - but that doesn't mean that Reese is wrong.
That's it, I'm not going to argue with you or anybody else. If they really want to make such an argument then they should contact Reese.
Have a nice day.ScottG wrote:
The DC is NOT a active type sway control. It is a friction control. It utilizes friction somewhat differently. There are some threads that go into this in depth. Our resident engineer Ron Gratz is involved in most of them.
I've had both the friction type and a DC and there was no comparison. The DC is an "active" system that applies more pressure as needed and just does a better job of keeping the trailer tracking straight behind you.
The friction units worked OK for a few years but eventually wore out and would get contaminated with rain, road scum and grease and would eventually have little effect and get noisy.- Yes get the DC system. It will work with your existing bars. Also when hooked up, i know that is your storage technique, if the chains aren't 100% vertical with the cams, it's no big deal. The chains will no longer move when turning so you don't need them equal as you did with the standard WD hitch!
ScottG wrote:
Drew_K wrote:
I just installed a Reese dual cam hitch this weekend. Yes, you can just add the dual cam part to what's shown in your picture. The cam brackets are bolted in at the bottom of the trailer tongue, so those aluminum boxes will not be in the way.
If the picture shows your trailer, the Reese instructions say that the lift up brackets should be positioned so that the chains are vertical, in order to avoid damage to the brackets. Your chains are tilted forward because the brackets are moved forward due to the tongue boxes. Something you may have already considered but wanted to point it out.
As the OP wrote, he doesn't tow with them oriented as shown in that pic. and he probably doesn't keep them attached to his stab jack either :)
That's what I get for typing a post from my phone ;) Now I get it.- I went from the friction bar and added the Dual Cam as you are considering and I could not believe how much better it was. I feel the DC is an outstanding system and will work well for your application. Proper installation and adjustment is key to success. Measure out everything carefully and you will need a good drill bit and strong drill motor to save time.
- Looks like it might be my next investment then...
Thanks for all the input! - The Dual Cam system will work just fine with your bars. If fact, the round bars are much easier to set up than the trunnion because you don't have the clearance problems that you sometimes get with the trunnion style bars. You just have to mount the cam arm brackets on your trailer, put the bars on , adjust it properly, and go. :)
Barney - I've had both the friction type and a DC and there was no comparison. The DC is an "active" system that applies more pressure as needed and just does a better job of keeping the trailer tracking straight behind you.
The friction units worked OK for a few years but eventually wore out and would get contaminated with rain, road scum and grease and would eventually have little effect and get noisy.
