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Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
That was my point, the Ram had a better showing time wise but not by much. A naturally aspirated engine is not going to do will pull that grade period. My beef is with the fact that they have yet to run a 6.2 f250. All three are going to run the same and without fully disclosing the specs of each truck this is nothing more then a waste of data!
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Huh? The videos I watched showed the GM beating the Ram by 3 minutes.danrclem wrote:
Where the heck is this Ike Gauntlet at?
The toughest climb I ever did (it's been a long long time ago so my memory about location might not serve me right) I think was somewhere west of Yellowstone heading toward Yellowstone. I was in a 24' Ford Alumalite class C motor home with a 460. I wasn't towing anything and there were four adults and one baby aboard. I was in 1st gear before I got to the top. Wish I could remember exactly where I was but like I said it's been a long time ago.
Eisenhower pass is on I-70 west of Denver. Reaches a height of over 11,100 feet at the top.Travlingman wrote:
alexleblanc wrote:
they should really have the big three Gas 3/4T trucks do a head to head - it would be interesting to see how they match up now with the new 6.4 and also the new SD.
You mean like they did here. Pickuptrucks.com Work Truck Challenge
I saw that, but its not realy a test up the IKE to see how they really do with 10k + lbs like most of us would have with our RV's.- I would like to see the 8 speed option in the 3/4 ton HD gas trucks. So far the 6 speed has been a much better option then the 4 speed was. An 8 speed Im sure will really keep these trucks were they need to be in the power band during any pull. I'm looking forward to see what GM will do with their 6.0 HD gas engine for the next series rolling out in a year or so. Dodge has stepped up to the 6.4 which appears to be a beast despite this test, and ford ain't no slouch either. I am not brand loyalty to be honest, before i purchased this truck I was trying to get the F250 with the 6.2 in the copper color but could not get the deal. This GMC fell into my lap and I could not turn it down, really like it. The stealth grey color was a bonus and the 4 x4 option was icing on the cake. Despite how these test come out, the gas HD trucks have come along way. Much improved over the last 10 plus years for sure. All are good in my book.
- That was my point, the Ram had a better showing time wise but not by much. A naturally aspirated engine is not going to do will pull that grade period. My beef is with the fact that they have yet to run a 6.2 f250. All three are going to run the same and without fully disclosing the specs of each truck this is nothing more then a waste of data!
Also they used a ball trailer on the Ram then started talking about the sway never mind he was turning the wheel back and forth or he had the truck loaded incorrectly (his own words!).
Nope they used to have some decent tests but now they have gotten too big for their britches IMO.
Don rjstractor wrote:
Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Also called them out on the fact that the Ram was a bumper pull towing a Ford with a water tote in the bed but the GMC was a fifth wheel with two water totes on the trailer at each end. They are becoming just another bunch of clowns getting free trucks to beat on with mindless clowns eating their dribble up.
Both the Chevy and the Ram were right up at their axle and towing limits. The Ram had the extra weight in the bed, but its trailer was lighter than the gooseneck pulled by the Chevy. Both trucks were predictably wheezy at elevation and seemed to perform similarly, times aside. I suspect the gas Ford would perform about the same, although it seems to take a person with no real brand loyalties to acknowledge that. The one test I watched where the Ford posted a faster time it was towing considerably less weight to that is not a valid comparison.
Again, you have to take this one test for what it is and it isn't fair to any of them to compare the tests with completely different trailers/trims/weights.
I suspect that towing the same trailers they'd all be within a minute of each other which makes it all about buyer's preference. I personally prefer the Ford 6.2L then the Ram 6.4L in that order for gas engines. I drive a Ram diesel because I preferred the Cummins over the other diesel options.
I would definitely like to see them do back to back runs with all the gas trucks for a good fair comparison of engines/transmissions.Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Also called them out on the fact that the Ram was a bumper pull towing a Ford with a water tote in the bed but the GMC was a fifth wheel with two water totes on the trailer at each end. They are becoming just another bunch of clowns getting free trucks to beat on with mindless clowns eating their dribble up.
Both the Chevy and the Ram were right up at their axle and towing limits. The Ram had the extra weight in the bed, but its trailer was lighter than the gooseneck pulled by the Chevy. Both trucks were predictably wheezy at elevation and seemed to perform similarly, times aside. I suspect the gas Ford would perform about the same, although it seems to take a person with no real brand loyalties to acknowledge that. The one test I watched where the Ford posted a faster time it was towing considerably less weight to that is not a valid comparison.- Funny part is (and I called them out on it) if they are going to test the Ram 2500 HD gas and the GMC 2500 HD gas, why didn't they test the Ford F250 SD gas? Maybe they did and it preformed so poorly that they didn't want to piss Ford off? Just saying Troy.
Also called them out on the fact that the Ram was a bumper pull towing a Ford with a water tote in the bed but the GMC was a fifth wheel with two water totes on the trailer at each end. They are becoming just another bunch of clowns getting free trucks to beat on with mindless clowns eating their dribble up.
Don danrclem wrote:
Where the heck is this Ike Gauntlet at?
The toughest climb I ever did (it's been a long long time ago so my memory about location might not serve me right) I think was somewhere west of Yellowstone heading toward Yellowstone. I was in a 24' Ford Alumalite class C motor home with a 460. I wasn't towing anything and there were four adults and one baby aboard. I was in 1st gear before I got to the top. Wish I could remember exactly where I was but like I said it's been a long time ago.
Maybe Teton Pass? 10% in places. We did it on a Ski Bus years ago. From Jackson Hole to Grand Targhee for the day and back. Scary in the winter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teton_PassSouthpawHD wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
That didn't go to well. Although I would not compare it to the GM's run. There is a big difference in wind resistance in what each were towing with the Ram's being the worst.
Ah, but let's be fair and mention the Chev truck was a more loaded crew cab, likely weighing in at several hundreds of pounds more.
Reading posts here about Ram vs everyone else is like watching the mainstream media and their fully biased news.
Not making excuses, just stating the obvious.
In many cases, greater wind resistance is worse than several hundred pounds of extra weight. I would much rather tow 12k lbs with very little wind resistance than 10k with a lot of wind resistance. I would think being in an RV forum that this would be known.
