Ram 6.4 ?

Really looking forward to my first pull with my 2018 Ram 2500 6.4. It has the 4.10 gears.

Yes you can! I ran across 3 of them for sale in Nebraska. All previously owned by the US forest service. And they can be ordered sticker delete! The one I called on was sold and was the cleanest. The other 2 were a little beat up!

Well what do you know? Learn something new everyday. Didn't know you could spec a Ram 2500 Tradesman 6,4L Hemi, and add a Power Wagon package to it...(Recognizing the low payload issue), it gives a lot of 4WD performance, and towing within reason, for the dollar.
Example in Cottonwood, AZ for the curious
Ram 2500 Tradesman (w/Power Wagon)

Grit dog wrote:
The Power Wafer make a great tow rig. 4.1s or 4.56s. Need to slap some extra springs in the back, but the 456s make up a lot for the poor gear splits.
They doo call them 6.4s though because that’s what the fuel mileage gauge goes to once the trailer hitch is locked to the truck.

Kind of of topic but pertinent. The newer GM 6.0 HDs are POOCHES!!
Always thought it was because theones I drove were old and ragged out 4 speeds.
Just towed with a new 6.0 2500 with 4.10s.
4500lb trailer with about 7klbs of steel on it. On a mild grade too (snoq Pass). My 2016 5.3 1500 will out pull that 6.0. No questions asked. 2500 has more chassis of course, but dayum......I was not expecting that.

That surprises me. I have had a two 6.0 HD's and routinely ran 30k combined with both of them. The 2011 had 3.73's the 15 was 4.10's. I was surprised and happy with the performance. The 15 was better than the 3.73's at that weight. I live about 2K feet above the elevation Snoqualmie and our passes go up from there. The mpg was not good, and it would scream up the hills but I was satisfied with the performance of the 6.0's.

I have an 18 purchased last summer. 2500 with the 6.4 and 4:10. Had a 2012 Diesel. My towing is only for the RV, not other use. Diesel was a bit nicer pulling long grades on interstate. Otherwise, I am perfectly happy with the 6.4. Much cheaper to maintain. Fuel cost far less here in PA. Nothing bad to say and love the 4:10's. I pull about 9500-10K lbs by the way. I love diesel trucks but can't justify the price difference anymore, and I am no longer dealing with worrying about DPF burn off from local running around, etc. You will love it!

Grit dog wrote:
Tere old and ragged out 4 speeds.
Just towed with a new 6.0 2500 with 4.10s.
4500lb trailer with about 7klbs of steel on it. On a mild grade too (snoq Pass). My 2016 5.3 1500 will out pull that 6.0. No questions asked. 2500 has more chassis of course, but dayum......I was not expecting that.

I have been towing for 9 years with a 6.0 4 speed. Had a TBI 454 and 5.3 truck neither of them came close to the 6.0 I have now.

I live probably an hour from you on the Kitsap Peninsula. Vantage, 4th of July pass, Lookout Pass, Tiger Mountain 7500lbs loaded trailer, Snoqualmie is an easy one. That is not my experience at all. I have no trouble maintaining 55 to 65 on any of those.

dodge guy wrote:

mlh wrote:
Just a heads up. The Power Wagon is NOT the ultimate tow vehicle. The payload is significantly reduced for that particular model compared to a standard 2500.

I tow a 2018 4x4 with the 6.4L, 6 speed, and 3.73 rear end. I am pulling about 8000-8500 and it tows great. I would expect it to rev up when in the mountains because that is what it is designed to do. Mileage is about 8 towing and 13 without, but I have a heavy foot. I do not keep vehicles long so I would NEVER recoup the cost of the diesel. I am very happy with mine FWIW.

As I said CCC aside, with the 4.56’s and 6 speed trans (even with the crazy rpm drop from first to second) it should pull my trailer just as good as my V-10 X (which by the way suffers the same 1-2nd gear rpm drop but with only 4 speeds). But I have 4.30’s which makes a world of difference.

Don't get me wrong. I wasn't knocking the power wagon, I just wish it would have the same payload rating.

Grit dog wrote:
" I do not keep vehicles long so I would NEVER recoup the cost of the diesel. I am very happy with mine FWIW."

Based solely on the 1 big OBJECTIVE comparison between a gas and diesel pickup being the difference in resale value, apples to apples you'd have to try hard to not recoup the initial cost whether you trade up every couple years or keep for a longtime. Pretty much guaranteed to get most of the up charge back and there's more than an outside shot at getting more than the original cost back.

The other factors, fuel prices, repairs, maintenance are too subjective for a definitive answer. These considerations favor the diesel in fuel mileage but sometimes don't in fuel price and repair $. Not suggesting it's bargain to own a diesel, but the notion that you won't get your money back out of it is typically the opinion of those who are only trying to justify why they didn't buy a diesel and have buyers remorse.

No buyer's remorse here. I love my Hemi engines. Yes, maybe I would recoup the cost of the diesel at trade in time, but why? Why would I need to spend more on a truck that I don't need, just to get it back at resale. I am not a bank or a lending institution. I don't get in the habit of letting the dealers hold my extra money until I am ready to trade and see if I can get it back.

The Power Wafer make a great tow rig. 4.1s or 4.56s. Need to slap some extra springs in the back, but the 456s make up a lot for the poor gear splits.
They doo call them 6.4s though because that’s what the fuel mileage gauge goes to once the trailer hitch is locked to the truck.

Kind of of topic but pertinent. The newer GM 6.0 HDs are POOCHES!!
Always thought it was because theones I drove were old and ragged out 4 speeds.
Just towed with a new 6.0 2500 with 4.10s.
4500lb trailer with about 7klbs of steel on it. On a mild grade too (snoq Pass). My 2016 5.3 1500 will out pull that 6.0. No questions asked. 2500 has more chassis of course, but dayum......I was not expecting that.

dodge guy wrote:
I believe all of them had 4.56’s. Except maybe the 8 speeds they may have 4.10’s.

And yes a Power Wafon would be more than enough for my trailer too.

If a PW has a 5.7L Hemi, it has 4.56s - 2013 and older.
If a PW has a 6.4L Hemi, it has 4.10s - 2014 and newer.