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The Mad Norsky wrote:
ROBERTSUNRUS wrote:
:) Hi, just saying; If the Dodge frames are so good why are there so many aftermarket re-inforcement kits for them??????? I don't see those for Ford or Chevy.
For the 2014 Rams???????:h
Um, er, gosh I honestly don't know, but those kits I have seen for steering column, steering box and such are mostly all for older models with a different frame.
:) Hi, check out "Big D Off Road, LLC" for $120.00 they have a kit for Dodge Ram Steering Gear Box Stabilizer 4WD 2009 to 2014 2500 and 3500 Series. :B
Would you consider a 2014 an older model with a different frame?- Just responding to your comment...so now that I know the level of any
discussion with you will end up in Proverbs26,4 level exchange...best to
block you and ask you to block meBird Freak wrote:
BenK wrote:
How do you come up with CDL;s, log books wheel size, and this other cr--p you are talking about from a point made of class 8 trucks and Ford both use a c channel frame. I just stated fact, have no idea what your point was supposed to be.
Curious analogy...but then do you think our light duty trucks should require
Class 8 level of drivers license (CDL requirement), 22.5" wheels, Drivers Log Book,
that they get fined if over weight, etc?
That would be refreshing to the over all safety out there, as personally think
way too many pickups/SUVs towing heavy are lacking...Bird Freak wrote:
sales hype. If a rigid frame was better Class 8 road tractors would use them. jus2shy wrote:
Same here. Guy logging my neighbors land is still using a 1956 Pete.Bird Freak wrote:
Go look at log trucks. Most are just old road tractors.
I'm in the Pacific North West. We have log trucks all through our metro and rural areas. Most around here just have the single long C-channel frame as I described. I see a few double framed trucks, but those are few and far in between.transamz9 wrote:
hone eagle wrote:
transamz9 wrote:
Bird Freak wrote:
sales hype. If a rigid frame was better Class 8 road tractors would use them.
If a class 8 truck was designed to go off the pavement then they would make them more rigid and AWD.
Ever see a logging truck? No AWD just chained up wheels and locked diffs,pulling god knows how much wieght with mud up to the frame .If the tires find 'bottom' they move.
Plain jane kenworth or petes just like you see on I75
No they are not Plain Jane just like what you see on I75. Their frames get doubled. I'm also not saying that rigid is the only way to go in all situations. Class 8 truck are designed completely different. If you notice, everything from the cab to the hood to the exhaust is attached to the frame in a way that it allows the frame to flex under extreme torque of the engine. The cab on your truck only attaches to the frame at the front with hinges and the hood is the same way.
I'm also not saying that the Ford frame is not strong, I'm saying it is not strong enough to keep all the parts working. Their frame works fine on a truck that you don't have to open the tail gate on but they either need to make a more rigid frame or more rigid bed.
Hummm on page 4 I got this ....... from a guy in KY.Bird Freak wrote:
Go look at log trucks. Most are just old road tractors.
I'm in the Pacific North West. We have log trucks all through our metro and rural areas. Most around here just have the single long C-channel frame as I described. I see a few double framed trucks, but those are few and far in between.jus2shy wrote:
Go look at log trucks. Most are just old road tractors.
Class 8's don't typically run a rigid frame because of the up-fit market. No class 8 manufacturer owns enough of the market to build their full-on accessory line economically. Notice that even CC trucks have their frame rails at 34". Same with all the HD trucks moving up in class. Again, this is so that all the up-fitters can design their upfitting packages on 1 single platform. If only 1 manufacturer built a fully boxed frame in that HD class of truck, how many up-fitters would be leaping at the chance to work on that 1 tiny segment of the market? Vast majority of those trucks are road trucks as well. For the class-8 trucks that really go on the rough roads, they Double the frame kinda like this: [[ ]]. This is so they can maintain compatibility with the up-fitter market and still have the rigidity they need their trucks to have to survive.BenK wrote:
How do you come up with CDL;s, log books wheel size, and this other cr--p you are talking about from a point made of class 8 trucks and Ford both use a c channel frame. I just stated fact, have no idea what your point was supposed to be.
Curious analogy...but then do you think our light duty trucks should require
Class 8 level of drivers license (CDL requirement), 22.5" wheels, Drivers Log Book,
that they get fined if over weight, etc?
That would be refreshing to the over all safety out there, as personally think
way too many pickups/SUVs towing heavy are lacking...Bird Freak wrote:
sales hype. If a rigid frame was better Class 8 road tractors would use them.- Made my own on the K5...later they came out with a kit and still sell'm here:
coloradok5.bom, ORD Weld in Frame Repair Kit
It was make funny noises whenever turning going slow. More and more
so as it got worse. Found the steering box was cracking the frame
rail where it was mounted. Mine was better than the kit above. Made
it from 10Ga steel. Miss the sheetmetal and machine shop of that
startup was a partner in.
Think a lot depends on what you drive, where you drive, how you drive, etc
I move small boulders out'a the way with my tires. Back then and
still do today. Pure laziness...could/should get out and manhandle
them myself...
Plus if you have a big block, diesel, winch, over sized tires, etc...there is
more weight/stresses being transferred back up to the frame rail where the
steering box is mounted
memory lane....my K5...before converting to 14 bot and Dana60. While
on frames...a 1973 K5 had a bobbed 1/2 ton short bed frame. Shortening
anything and leaving the thickness/cross section will have it stiffer.
Plus they had special gusseting on the body down to the frame to
increase the box section even more. Oh yeah, also put in a 49 (IIRC)
gallon main tank along with the 1 ton axles
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Probably talking about steering stabilizer brackets. Yes they offer those for other brands too.
Try something else.
My steering don't need stabilized..got whole brand new front end in 13:)
