RAM passes FORD in HD sales.

Like I said, some still want to live under a rock! The World has change for better or worst. Fish's problem is when he no longer could attack RAM for what it is, he switched to where it is manufactured and such.

All of the three major trucks have come a long way in recent years. Most of the new TV in our Arizona RV park appear to be RAMs this year. When Ford makes the new 2017 maybe it will regain its top spot with class 3, 4, and 5 sales. Each has a few features that are better on the other ones, however Ford is over due for a refresh beside GM and RAM. So people are waiting for that. People even on here say "wait for the 2017"! Between that and warranty issues, they need to get their act cleaned up. GM has been much smarter regarding the CP4.2 failures. Nobody drums GM and RAM about Warranty issues like they do FORD.

I started this thread about sales numbers for class 3, 4 and 5 trucks. The numbers are what they are, RAM is doing very well right now!

Chris

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Seriously I think the only reason why you kids even bring it up is just so you guys can say your favorite is better than someone else's favorite.

Going out of your way just to piss in someone else's Cheerios is not a trait of a grown man,

and is more a trait of a adolescent douche bag.


:) Hi, and your last line wordage makes you no better than the point you were trying to make in the previous part of your sentence. (really????"douche bag") :S

FishOnOne wrote:

But when your purchase a truck from a foreign company like ram I guess it doesn't matter.

This is false, Ram is not a foreign company. It is a US based company and is a division of another US based company, FCA US, which is a subsidiary of the stock holding company, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, based out of London and is owned by shareholders. Fiat Chrysler Automobiles also has another subsidiary called FCA Italy for vehicles built in other global markets. The parent company of Ram, FCA US, may have most of it's shares owned by a foreign holding company, but Ram itself is still a US company along with FCA US per US government standards. Although many US companies have stocks owned or held by foreign companies.

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I am still trying to figure out why trucks like the Ram or engines like the Powerstroke being built in Mexico even matters. If everything a person owns is US made then I can see them saying something, but to say something while still owning stuff made outside of the the US is a bit hypocritical.

Also, does the fact that a vehicle/engine is built outside the US means that it is of less quality? If so, then both sides of this argument have something to loose. You either pay Juan to build it so he can feed his family so they don't end up making drugs to sell in the US or you pay some union worker who in-turn pays the union who will use it to get another politician elected that will make laws in their favor. Which is worse will be up to you.

Seriously I think the only reason why you kids even bring it up is just so you guys can say your favorite is better than someone else's favorite. Going out of your way just to piss in someone else's Cheerios is not a trait of a grown man, and is more a trait of a adolescent douche bag.

Fords doing a heck of a job keeping the truck plant here. Not so with the rest of their vehicles. I guess that Ford apple pie does have some Jalapeno in it. Check your slice before eating.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/ford-to-more-than-double-mexico-production-capacity-in-2018-1454857923

Me Again wrote:
Looks like some want to live under a rock. I guess they think no one outside of America should by a Ford or GM vehicle. Silly on them there children, they are so busy being just that, that they add little or nothing to forums like this.

I wonder how many of all the Aisin parts mentioned in the link below are on FORD vehicles? Chris

http://www.aisin.com/profile/global/north_america/

Japanese company.... But when your purchase a truck from a foreign company like ram I guess it doesn't matter. :W

I suspect those company's who buy these trucks don't know this either. Hopefully the people who purchase trucks for their personal use take this important attribute to heart.

You mean parts from the over 20 Aisin plants making parts in the US?

Looks like some want to live under a rock. I guess they think no one outside of America should by a Ford or GM vehicle. Silly on them there children, they are so busy being just that, that they add little or nothing to forums like this.

I wonder how many of all the Aisin parts mentioned in the link below are on FORD vehicles? Chris

http://www.aisin.com/profile/global/north_america/

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"Do you know where the Aisin transmission is from? "

Fairly certain it's US Made in the RAM.

Aisin is a Japanese company :M

The Ford transmission has molded in the case "Made in USA"... Very nice I might add. :B

Sorry to here that.

Bird Freak wrote:
You really want to talk about Mexico? Do you know where the Aisin transmission is from? I will give you a hint. My wifes KIA SORENTO has one in it.

Wonder how the Koreans feel about that.;)

Both Ford and GM used Aisin transmissions at different times. Aisin is the world's largest builder of automatic transmissions.