you guys are awesome with the feedback i really appreciate it.
I think the wife and I are going to go look at a 2014 puma by palimino its the 31rss model with the rear living.
It is used but seems like a really good price @ $17,500.
I know it wont have the quality of a dutchman or bullet but if its in good shape for this price it may be to good to pass up since the floorplan is real close to what we were looking for.
i think the wife would rather go used seeing how this is our first RV. her thinking is go used and get a cheaper unit to figure out what we like and dont like then in a few years get something nice and fancy.