Rivian R1S
Sitting next to an SUV with that model designation.
Nice looking rig, appears to be in the same chassis as pickup. No plates out.
Marty
Nice looking rig, appears to be in the same chassis as pickup. No plates out.
Marty
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JRscooby wrote:
Huntindog wrote:
time2roll wrote:
agesilaus wrote:
I am still waiting to get a report on using a Rivian as a toad. If it works I might just trade....
Not of great interest to Class A, B and C Rvers.
Could it be setup to add braking on a downhill? Regenerative?
Another idea; If driver of MH could power up the toad on the fly, make toad pull itself, or even push, on steep hills, or when need to accelerate.
This would make room in battery for the regen.
Great idea. But probably a pretty small market for a manufacturer to invest in the R&D needed. That would be mostly software.
Toyota is working on “follow me” software where the car would just follow the Motorhome. That would be a more universal approach as you could use any car as a toad. Or just tell it to meet you at the campsite. :). Mercedes and Tesla are probably not that far from that now with their (future) autonomous driving software packages.time2roll wrote:
After a bit more reading... Rivian seems to no longer endorse four-down towing of the vehicles. :(
Bollinger had made the same comments and then shifted out of the personal market to focus on commercial.
There are no EVs that can be towed on all four wheels that I am aware of.
Can anybody tell what the issue is that would prevent flat towing? For years, ICE cars was the transmission did not lube itself unless the input shaft was spinning. Which implied spin the engine. EVs don't have transmission, so that's no problem. No disconnect between wheel and motor? Well spinning the motor, with no power to it, does no harm, as long does not exceed speed it would normally run. (Going to tow faster than you would drive?) Steering and brakes would be no more complicated than ICE.time2roll wrote:
Huntindog wrote:
After a bit more reading... Rivian seems to no longer endorse four-down towing of the vehicles. :(time2roll wrote:
agesilaus wrote:
I am still waiting to get a report on using a Rivian as a toad. If it works I might just trade....
Not of great interest to Class A, B and C Rvers.
Could it be setup to add braking on a downhill? Regenerative?
Bollinger had made the same comments and then shifted out of the personal market to focus on commercial.
There are no EVs that can be towed on all four wheels that I am aware of.
What would you be trading up from…..you know, if it could be a 4 on the floor toad?Huntindog wrote:
After a bit more reading... Rivian seems to no longer endorse four-down towing of the vehicles. :(time2roll wrote:
agesilaus wrote:
I am still waiting to get a report on using a Rivian as a toad. If it works I might just trade....
Not of great interest to Class A, B and C Rvers.
Could it be setup to add braking on a downhill? Regenerative?
Bollinger had made the same comments and then shifted out of the personal market to focus on commercial.
There are no EVs that can be towed on all four wheels that I am aware of.Huntindog wrote:
time2roll wrote:
agesilaus wrote:
I am still waiting to get a report on using a Rivian as a toad. If it works I might just trade....
Not of great interest to Class A, B and C Rvers.
Could it be setup to add braking on a downhill? Regenerative?
Another idea; If driver of MH could power up the toad on the fly, make toad pull itself, or even push, on steep hills, or when need to accelerate.
This would make room in battery for the regen.time2roll wrote:
agesilaus wrote:
I am still waiting to get a report on using a Rivian as a toad. If it works I might just trade....
Not of great interest to Class A, B and C Rvers.
Could it be setup to add braking on a downhill? Regenerative?- My son and I drove Anchorage to NorCal in Dec 2006 and had no issues. We just didn’t pass an open station once we hit half tank or judging distance to next town.
That being said most off the outpost stations were closed or daytime hours only. time2roll wrote:
Reisender wrote:
Amazing how fast a business will move if they can distribute additional product.
Hard to say. BC hydro plans to populate both the highway to Alaska and the one to the yukon with DC fast chargers every 80 to 120 kilometers. Big project. At this point they are projecting 2025 as a completion date. They have been pretty good with staying on schedule on other routes. It wouldn’t surprise me if they gitterdun.
Sometimes I wonder why the US utilities are holding back.
Found the map. Big project. And some stretches are single phase power. There have been some rumors of them using those boost chargers by free wire. They have a 160 kwh batteriy on board. They only need a single 240 volt 100 amp feed but can fast charge at 150 kw. Max 14 cars per day. Those are getting quite common here in BC. In the last month we have seen at least 20 of those go in here in the last 3 or 4 weeks. Mostly at convenience stores located at shell gas stations. Pretty cool tech.
Here is the BC hydro map. A lot of these south of highway 16 are already in. We used them on the island a lot. Cool thing about chargers is they are open 7 and 24. Definitely not the case on those northern routes right now.
And BC hydro is starting to make trailer friendly sites. This one is in Lillooet.
And here is a pic of a boost charger. Big suckers, but need almost no infrastructure. Just a single 100 amp 240 volt line. Hope they use these up north.
Reisender wrote:
Amazing how fast a business will move if they can distribute additional product.
Hard to say. BC hydro plans to populate both the highway to Alaska and the one to the yukon with DC fast chargers every 80 to 120 kilometers. Big project. At this point they are projecting 2025 as a completion date. They have been pretty good with staying on schedule on other routes. It wouldn’t surprise me if they gitterdun.
Sometimes I wonder why the US utilities are holding back.PA12DRVR wrote:
"I have read many Canadian gasoline stations also close in the winter if traveling to/from AK. Am I wrong?"
I made my 1st winter trip on the Alcan going from Los Anchorage to Seattle area in 1972....I had only a learner's permit at the time and was on the trip with my uncle's foreman to help get hay and a trailer from Seattle and return. I would estimate that at that time 75% of the roadhouse stations through YT/BC outside of identified cities were closed in (IIRC) January...part of that was that there were a LOT more places 50 years ago and the winnowing effect was taking place. A colleague (admittedly not my direct experience) made the trip North from Seattle this year leaving on 2-Jan, getting here about a week ago. He reported that he had no problem finding stations to keep his 30+ gallon diesel tank at 1/2 or higher. He never had to get into the 20 gallons of spare diesel cans in the back of his pickup.
....which is a key point on this rambling message. Until my latest trip (3 years ago, helping someone relocate from Ewe-Stun), in 20+ trips since that '72 trip, I've always made a point to carry at least 10 gallons of fuel for any trip outside of the May - August window. That gave me anywhere between 150 and 220 miles of "Oh ****, I'm getting low" problem solving. I'm not sure what the mitigation is if one's pure EV lasts shorter than expected in cold weather.
...and again, I'll admit to a morbid fascination of "what can go wrong", but I'm unwilling to take the drive, at any time between October and April which is winter driving with all the risk that entails, between Los Anchorage and Glennallen even though the mileage looks to be within the range of an EV and even though there might (probably?) be charging stations in Glennallen.
Hard to say. BC hydro plans to populate both the highway to Alaska and the one to the yukon with DC fast chargers every 80 to 120 kilometers. Big project. At this point they are projecting 2025 as a completion date. They have been pretty good with staying on schedule on other routes. It wouldn’t surprise me if they gitterdun.
