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Jan 05, 2018

RV Show Reflections (Do RV Engineers RV?)

Went to the San Antonio RV show yesterday and we really enjoyed seeing all the new RVs. Was pleasently surprised at construction quality on most models, not a lot of shoddy construction issues were ob...
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1. Placing sewer connections under slides. Saw this on several different brands. Even the salesmen were scratching their heads when I pointed this out.
2. Water/electric/cable connections. One model we looked at had the electric connection on the rear, city water on the front left, fresh water in the center, sewer flush under a slide and cable on the side near the rear. Seems it would be a PITA setting up.
2. In several models, the sleeper sofa was placed so that it could not be unfolded entirely., dinette booth was in the way. This one was unbelievable.
3. Television placement. One of our favorite floorplans had the TV mounted in an area that could not be seen from the sofa. The sofa was the main seating area in this model - just Wow!
3. Mattresses on bunk beds. Some were so thin, you might as well be sleeping on the plywood base.
4. Wonder where RV manufactures get these no-name brand televisions?
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2. Water/electric/cable connections. One model we looked at had the electric connection on the rear, city water on the front left, fresh water in the center, sewer flush under a slide and cable on the side near the rear. Seems it would be a PITA setting up.
2. In several models, the sleeper sofa was placed so that it could not be unfolded entirely., dinette booth was in the way. This one was unbelievable.
3. Television placement. One of our favorite floorplans had the TV mounted in an area that could not be seen from the sofa. The sofa was the main seating area in this model - just Wow!
3. Mattresses on bunk beds. Some were so thin, you might as well be sleeping on the plywood base.
4. Wonder where RV manufactures get these no-name brand televisions?
Anyway, was impressed with some of the innovations on a lot of the models. Unfortunately, these innovations come with a higher price tag. Was looking to downsize from my current TT but thinking I'll keep it for a few more years. Yesterday was the 1st day of the show and for a Thursday, there were a lot of folks attending. The RV industry is booming."},"Conversation:conversation:2875193":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:2875193","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2875193"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2018-01-09T16:42:53.000-08:00","lastPostTime":"2018-01-09T16:42:53.000-08:00","unreadReplyCount":35,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2875193":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2875193","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:2875193_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:2875193_1","lastEditTime":"2018-01-05T06:17:34.000-08:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2875214":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:2875214","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2875193"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:1762"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":2875214,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"subject":"Re: RV Show Reflections (Do RV Engineers RV?)","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2875214"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2875193"},"body":"If you want those things, you will have to install them yourself. We put a full length mirror on the bath room door, another mirror opposite the television so it could be seen from the dinette, cut the pantry door in half so the bottom would not hit the thrash can. This is in addition to numerous Command wall hooks and a cutting board over the sink. Oh yes a memory foam mattresses pad on the bed.

I am sure the next owner will scrap it all and replace it with what his wife wants. :) :) They will probably keep the memory foam.","body@stringLength":"541","rawBody":"If you want those things, you will have to install them yourself. We put a full length mirror on the bath room door, another mirror opposite the television so it could be seen from the dinette, cut the pantry door in half so the bottom would not hit the thrash can. This is in addition to numerous Command wall hooks and a cutting board over the sink. Oh yes a memory foam mattresses pad on the bed.

I am sure the next owner will scrap it all and replace it with what his wife wants. :) :) They will probably keep the memory 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