Seven States to Ban the Sale of Gas Powered Cars in 2035

Cptnvideo wrote:
There is an obvious reason why folks bash Cali-fornicate-ya.

We really need a like button….

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

propchef wrote:
Why do the mods allow these bash CA to continue? The last 4 pages are a political rant.

I never bashed anything bro. I told straight up facts.
If you don't like facts, unsubscribe from the thread.

Gotta say, I sure enjoyed the video of Fish and his new neighbors! I stayed at a Motel 6 in Oakland, by the coliseum, years back. Was unloading a bit of luggage, when a car pulled up next to me, girl screaming, "help me, my boyfriend has been stabbed". Yup, she was right about that! He's laying in the backseat, bleeding a lot, soaked all through his white t-shirt. Anyway, like the video implied, here comes the police, rescue squad, fire truck, canine corps, and you guessed it, a chopper.

They took him in the room across from mine, treated him, argued with him/her, as they refused to go to hospital.

There is an obvious reason why folks bash Cali-fornicate-ya.

propchef wrote:
Why do the mods allow these bash CA to continue? The last 4 pages are a political rant.

I never bashed anything bro. I told straight up facts.
If you don't like facts, unsubscribe from the thread.

propchef wrote:
...Polluting is not a "personal freedom."...

That's an interesting argument. Name one living person anywhere in the world that is not polluting in one way or another; either directly or indirectly. It seems the biggest bitchers are the biggest hypocrites: i.e.: Al Gore, the guy that takes private jets that could seat 40 people to climate conferences solo.

wapiticountry wrote:
Politicians love to pass laws that don’t go into effect until they are long gone from office. And the few that are still around should it go bad will either deny they had anything to do with it passing or blame the other side for botching the implementation. Taking responsibility should a law backfire is not in any politician’s playbook.

Haha, well stated!

But regardless of political stance or otherwise, you can’t put everything into effect immediately and part of our political leaders’ roles are to be forward looking.
As well as represent and effect the desires (which is dangerous when one allows people with no mental capacity or desire to effect anything other than their own personal situation, which may be wholly a product of their greed) of their constituents.
It’s a balance for sure. And the reason the advantages and disadvantages of different political structures is so highly debatable.

Politicians love to pass laws that don’t go into effect until they are long gone from office. And the few that are still around should it go bad will either deny they had anything to do with it passing or blame the other side for botching the implementation. Taking responsibility should a law backfire is not in any politician’s playbook.

Thanks for contributing to the rant. But we already knew where you stood…
The fact of the matter is, not just accepting, but glorifying and condoning things like underage sex and “alternate” genders is just sooo wrong.
And ya you’re right, the thread started as a political thread. No secret.

Grit dog wrote:

Dadoffourgirls wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
...In any event, people don't think this can happen. I'm telling you it can with just a stroke of a pen. I haven't talked to anybody in Air Quality in a long time but last time I did the guy I talked to said CARB was trying to outlaw my 2006 John Deere tractor. I don't know about the rest of you but a 2006 tractor with 325 hours on it is brand new to me...

Turtle - I understand how you would feel if you had an outlawed JD. I am willing to help you out. I can assist you with compliance if the time comes. Maybe we could find a CyberTruck to tow it to the California border.

Maybe there will be a cash for tractors, where they pay you to get a new electric tractor?

Lol. Sad but, well, sad.
We should start a go fund me for all Californians that are stuck there and having their personal freedoms wiped out before their own eyes!
I’ll think of you guys while I’m using my 2 stroke weed whipper and gas powered mower!

CA is banning emissions. Florida is banning books.

Polluting is not a "personal freedom."


Why do the mods allow these bash CA to continue? The last 4 pages are a political rant.

goducks10 wrote:

Durb wrote:

ktmrfs wrote:
Been to china multiple times. Depends on where you are as far as visible polution as well as non visible but noticeable polution (eyes, lungs etc.) Some places are really bad, other places are comparable to most large U.S. cities.

But then in the U.S. places near coal fired plants have pretty bad visible and respiratory pollution as well. it's hard to clean up the pollution from coal fired plants, way worse than NG fired plants.

We had a relatively new coal fired plant about 150 miles from us. Every time we drove by it on our trips east the air was visibly darkened, sometimes pretty bad. Now that they have converted it to NG air is visibly clear whenever we drive by.

If you are referring to the Boardman coal fired plant, it closed two and a half years ago. Don't believe they ever converted to natural gas. The owner, Portland General Electric, closed the plant as it transitions to renewable energy sources, namely wind energy. The emissions of that plant were nothing compared to the sight of the hundreds of ugly wind turbines serving as a visual blight and destroying the view shed of nearby pristine country. Wind turbines have destroyed the beautiful vistas of the Eastern Columbia River Gorge. If the greenies weren't so anti fossil fuels, they would be protesting in the streets to remove the wind turbines.

I find the view driving out near Boardman boring as heck. Miles of rolling brown hills.

We'll have to agree we are different that way. Boardman has frontage on the Columbia River and is the gateway to the rolling dry wheat fields entering into Pendleton. The view behind of that country while entering the Blues is extraordinary.

I went onto Google Earth and counted the wind turbines visible from the freeway at Boardman - 186. That's right, 186 of the monstrosities built on wild open country.