should have got gas.

ghostrider42 wrote:

goducks10 wrote:

ghostrider42 wrote:

Me Again wrote:

Powerdude wrote:
Sell it to one of the members, have him start an LLC for $50 bucks, and then lease it from him.

Then delete the POS emissions stuff from the sucker.

If anybody complains, you can just blame it on the subcontractor. Claim you don't know what is going on.

That's what everybody else does in the gubbamint. Blame somebody else when something does not work right. Cover your behind.

You really need to learn how this "works" out in subcontractor land....

My stepson is in the wholesale exhaust business and he tells me the Feds are really coming down hard on companies making and/or installing deletes etc. Fines are being handed out! Proceed with caution! Times are changing and they(the Feds) are very serious this time.

He has a client in Idaho that had suits walk into their shop and say "did you modify this customers(Joe Blow) truck? Do not ever do this kind of work again!"

Chris

It seems to me it would be easier and probably cheaper to find an older truck - one without the def systems. There are plenty of pre-05 trucks out there looking for new homes.

That's easy to say, but not everyone wants a 9-10 year old truck with 150,000+ miles on it that has a well used interior, smells like diesel and is noisy.

An easy way to get rid of the regens and make the truck more efficient is to do a DPF delete with SIMs. Only cost around $220-250.00 and doesn't require a tuner. Your EVIC may show a code but it can be removed with a code reader that cost $20-30.00. Regens will stop allowing longer oil change intervals. Keep the DPF if the truck is still in warranty. It can be put back on in an hour or two.

Ok you spend $50k on a new truck and another $250-300 to do a delete - you still need to buy ULSD fuel.

I'll buy a 12V 95-97 Ram with 250,000 miles on it for $9k - and it will burn any kind of diesel and it won't have any electronics on it to go bad. The o/h won't cost but a grand or two and I'll still have a better truck.

goducks10 wrote:

ghostrider42 wrote:

Me Again wrote:

Powerdude wrote:
Sell it to one of the members, have him start an LLC for $50 bucks, and then lease it from him.

Then delete the POS emissions stuff from the sucker.

If anybody complains, you can just blame it on the subcontractor. Claim you don't know what is going on.

That's what everybody else does in the gubbamint. Blame somebody else when something does not work right. Cover your behind.

You really need to learn how this "works" out in subcontractor land....

My stepson is in the wholesale exhaust business and he tells me the Feds are really coming down hard on companies making and/or installing deletes etc. Fines are being handed out! Proceed with caution! Times are changing and they(the Feds) are very serious this time.

He has a client in Idaho that had suits walk into their shop and say "did you modify this customers(Joe Blow) truck? Do not ever do this kind of work again!"

Chris

It seems to me it would be easier and probably cheaper to find an older truck - one without the def systems. There are plenty of pre-05 trucks out there looking for new homes.

That's easy to say, but not everyone wants a 9-10 year old truck with 150,000+ miles on it that has a well used interior, smells like diesel and is noisy.

An easy way to get rid of the regens and make the truck more efficient is to do a DPF delete with SIMs. Only cost around $220-250.00 and doesn't require a tuner. Your EVIC may show a code but it can be removed with a code reader that cost $20-30.00. Regens will stop allowing longer oil change intervals. Keep the DPF if the truck is still in warranty. It can be put back on in an hour or two.

ghostrider42 wrote:

Me Again wrote:

Powerdude wrote:
Sell it to one of the members, have him start an LLC for $50 bucks, and then lease it from him.

Then delete the POS emissions stuff from the sucker.

If anybody complains, you can just blame it on the subcontractor. Claim you don't know what is going on.

That's what everybody else does in the gubbamint. Blame somebody else when something does not work right. Cover your behind.

You really need to learn how this "works" out in subcontractor land....

My stepson is in the wholesale exhaust business and he tells me the Feds are really coming down hard on companies making and/or installing deletes etc. Fines are being handed out! Proceed with caution! Times are changing and they(the Feds) are very serious this time.

He has a client in Idaho that had suits walk into their shop and say "did you modify this customers(Joe Blow) truck? Do not ever do this kind of work again!"

Chris

It seems to me it would be easier and probably cheaper to find an older truck - one without the def systems. There are plenty of pre-05 trucks out there looking for new homes.

Me Again wrote:

Powerdude wrote:
Sell it to one of the members, have him start an LLC for $50 bucks, and then lease it from him.

Then delete the POS emissions stuff from the sucker.

If anybody complains, you can just blame it on the subcontractor. Claim you don't know what is going on.

That's what everybody else does in the gubbamint. Blame somebody else when something does not work right. Cover your behind.

You really need to learn how this "works" out in subcontractor land....

My stepson is in the wholesale exhaust business and he tells me the Feds are really coming down hard on companies making and/or installing deletes etc. Fines are being handed out! Proceed with caution! Times are changing and they(the Feds) are very serious this time.

He has a client in Idaho that had suits walk into their shop and say "did you modify this customers(Joe Blow) truck? Do not ever do this kind of work again!"

Chris

Powerdude wrote:
Sell it to one of the members, have him start an LLC for $50 bucks, and then lease it from him.

Then delete the POS emissions stuff from the sucker.

If anybody complains, you can just blame it on the subcontractor. Claim you don't know what is going on.

That's what everybody else does in the gubbamint. Blame somebody else when something does not work right. Cover your behind.

You really need to learn how this "works" out in subcontractor land....

Jarlaxle wrote:


If you want something with no emission problems, I think my town is replacing a ladder truck next year. It's a 10-wheel Autocar, I think a 1965, with a 12V71 Detroit, a 13-speed Road Ranger, and manual steering. That fire-breathing Jimmy will haul the 30-ton truck up hills with the cars. At full power and 2400RPM, the unmuffled 5" stacks drown out the siren, and the truck makes more smoke than the fire. :D