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deltabravo's avatar
Aug 02, 2013

Slideouts: Benefits and drawbacks

For those considering a camper with a slide out, or without, I will offer my 3 cents worth:

Benefits:
More space!
I love the expanded floor space I get in my AF811 with the slide out.
I can imagine that with 2 people, the extra space would even be more advantageous, because you can walk past each other without going sideways.

When I was camper shopping in mid to late 2009, I also considered the AF865, but went with the 811 because it was shorter, and it would also more easily accommodate installing a power inverter.

Shorter camper, with less weight was a huge consideration for me at the time due to payload capacity of my truck, as well as the fact that I always have a trailer with me when the camper is on the truck.

Knowing what I know now, after having lived with a slide out for 3.5 camping seasons, would I buy a camper with a slide out again? Probably so, because I love the extra floor space.

Drawbacks (or minor annoyances):

1. The back portion of the camper is very cramped with the slide out retracted. The camper really isn't intended to be used with the slide in, though I have gotten in and out of it with the slide in.

Loading groceries enroute is a PITA with the slide in.
Getting in the bathroom is also a challenge, unless you are good at doing a side-step dance maneuver while shimmying through the narrow space between the wall where the sliding bathroom door is and the dinette.

2. Without a slide topper awning, you will likely get water in the camper when you retract the slide if the slide roof is wet. The water won't all get squeegeed off the roof by the rubber flapper seals when you pull in the slide. What water remains up there will run off the roof, and into the camper interior once you start moving down the road.

The first time I encountered the above was when I was returning from the Overland Expo two years ago. The weather got cold coming through California, and I hit snow near Mt Shasta. I stopped for the night, and put out the slide, never giving a thought to the snow accumulating on the slide roof. (DUH!! What the heck was a thinking?!? ) The furnace ran a lot that night. In the morning, I had to climb up on the roof and clear the snow off the slide roof. NOT FUN! Once the slide was in I had to clean the residual snow/water off the slide roof with some towels.

Later down the road, I realized I should have left the slide in. It would have prevented the snow/water problem, and probably would have provided better warmth too, with less air space to heat.

Last night I stopped for the night, and shortly after parking, it started to rain, so I immediately retracted the slide after I remembered the problem above.

Neither of the above are meant to sound like a person shouldn't / can't extend the slide during inclement weather. The instances I encountered as described above were minor concerns / issues for me because I was just stopping for the night, with the intent to hit the road as soon as I woke up.

So, what is everyone elses list of benefits and drawbacks of a slideout?
  • kerry4951 wrote:
    deltabravo
    Just a suggestion....I installed a second slide out switch just outside the cabover area.



    Hey that's a pretty good idea. So good I wonder why they don't just do that from the factory. :h
  • deltabravo
    Just a suggestion....I installed a second slide out switch just outside the cabover area. That way once we get into bed, all I have to do is hit the switch and bring the slide out in. Before, as you know, I had to stand in the back of my AF, bring in the slide out, and then fight my way back up into the bed area. Getting up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom was another adventure. Now its not an issue with the second switch.
    I will also add that I personally would not have a slide out without an awning. Ive never had an issue with water coming in thru the slide out. Thats during any rain or after bringing the slide out in.
  • Having a slide in a camper usually gives you a lovely wide opposite seating dinette. Very few non slide campers will comfortably fit four adults for dinner or games.

    Because the seating is set up to be opposite instead of wrap-around our best mod so far is removing the two pedestals and putting in a dream dinette. It took a bit of careful measuring with my stud sensor to mount it, but now it is rock solid and goes up and down without a hitch. It was also quite simple to put in a nice wooden wall side piece that limits the upward rise to just the perfect height.

    Snowbird/SnowRiver campers were designed to use both in or out without issues for average sized people.

    And I carry mine with 19.5's on my F350 CC 4 by 4 SRW too.
  • The OP list is pretty good.

    Other comments, slides are generally only 200-300 lbs more per slide. I'm sure that makes a difference for some trucks, but it is a very small tax for the benefit. In comparison, that's about what you expect to gain by 1 ft of length. Yes, I'm generalizing somewhat based on TC company specs that I've compared.

    Stealth isn't really a problem sleeping since you can just shut the slide. In my experience, opening and shutting a slide isn't a significant issue. However, I can see why having a driver side slide as the main slide would be an issue since it would open on the traffic side on the side of a road/pullout.

    Part of the advantage of campers that have slides is that their floors are generally above the wheel wells and have more floor to start with which is the same for all campers with a basement. I have probably twice the floor space as a 9 1/2 length camper without a basement and without slides when I have my slides open. It's actually quite amazing.
  • We had a non-slide camper for 10 years before we purchased our AF990. The space with the slide out is worth every ounce of weight. It is just DW and a 90lb Chesapeake dog, but in the Oregon wet, things can get crowded. Our camper came with the slide awning installed, so we have not experienced any issues with snow/water coming in the camper. Our neighbor had a TT with a slide, no awning and he had several stories of snow/water in the trailer. I have had the awning flap in high winds, so I bought a cheap blow up beach ball, partially inflate it and stuff it under the awning if it is windy. Keeps the noise down.
    As for getting in/out with the slide retracted, I do not find it an obstacle at all. We extend and retract as needed.
  • After last night and this morning of being crowded with the slide in, I am likely going to look in to having a slide topper awning installed!!
  • I have 2 slides on the Lance and I have never experienced #2.

    I was out in a Tropical Storm once and the rain moving sideways at 60mph or so pushed under the seal and made a little mess.

    I have yet to find a negative to having a slide myself.
  • mrkoje wrote:
    I do not have a truck camper but both my wife and I do enjoy "NOT" having a slide in our new trailer.


    I've seen a number of trailers, that with the slide IN, access to certain things were totally blocked! Like the Fridge.

    The topic of stealth camping is a good point as well. There have been a number of times where I stop in a place where it's OK to park overnight, but a rig with no slide would of course make it less obvious that someone was camping out all night.

    I could stop at truck stops, but every little noise makes it tough for me to sleep, so I try to park somewhere a little more "quiet" when I do have to park in a parking lot or similar location.
  • I do not have a truck camper but both my wife and I do enjoy "NOT" having a slide in our new trailer. It's the widebody 102" and the floorplan doesn't really need a slide for extra space. IMO, it's just another issue waiting to go wrong and what I really disliked about having the slide in the first place was that it was ackward to maneuver in the trailer with the slide in to hit the bathroom or fridge. It was nice for the extra space while at the camping spot though.

    Since you are talking truck campers - I think with the limited amount of space to begin with that a slide would be nice and worth every ounce of inconvienence while enroute.
  • I'd like to have a slide but what holds me back is the extra weight (I have a SRW truck) and sort of losing the ability to stealth-camp. If you have a slide out, everyone knows your in there.