So Confused

Bumpyroad wrote:

donn0128 wrote:

So lacking anything else use the GVWR number. Using max permissable numbers will always ensure that you are erroring on the side of caution, and not throwing caution to the wind.

so you can blindly follow the GVWR number and as long as that is below permitted tow weight you are OK? even if you have no idea what your rig weighs?
I don't think so.
bumpy

Stop putting words in my mouth would you! I never said that. I was saying that since the OP does not have a trailer yet and is trying to make an educated guess what he might safely tow to use the GVWR

While payload is often the limit for half tons, I think it will be acceleration and power for your truck.

I'm not sure any high walled RV will be acceptable to tow with that engine. It takes a lot of power to pull two sheets of plywood through the air at 65mph. You'll be cruising in 4th gear at 3000rpm, I hope. Then you hit an overpass and need 3rd or 2nd for hills. Are you ready to accept that situation? Are you prepared to upgrade the truck if you do not find performance acceptable? If you limit yourself wit this truck and get something with more capability later, you may regret the compromise with the RV you chose.

If you plan to stay below your tow rating, then under 4500 pounds should be good.

scool191 wrote:

...So can I get these trailers based on UVW? Or should I look at GRVW.

Are you only going to tow it completely empty?

If not the GVWR of the trailer is a convenient number to use.

Best is to fully load it and get it weighed.

I would suggest you look at UVW of 3,500 pounds or less.

Don't forget that passengers and gear in the truck must also go against the tow rating. If you have 1,000 pounds of passengers and gear in truck that would make the trailer maximum at 4,700 instead of 5,700.

donn0128 wrote:

So lacking anything else use the GVWR number. Using max permissable numbers will always ensure that you are erroring on the side of caution, and not throwing caution to the wind.

so you can blindly follow the GVWR number and as long as that is below permitted tow weight you are OK? even if you have no idea what your rig weighs?
I don't think so.
bumpy

Bumpyroad wrote:
the only weight figure that counts is the original dry weight, plus liquids, plus stuff. if that is under the max tow weight by an adequate amount, you are good to go.
don't let a high GVWR deter you.
JMHO
bumpy

And without actually putting everything in the trailer and dragging it over the scales there is absolutely no way to accurately determine that!
So lacking anything else use the GVWR number. Using max permissable numbers will always ensure that you are erroring on the side of caution, and not throwing caution to the wind.

dahkota wrote:

westend wrote:
Don't know where you got the 5700 lb limit from. According to the Ford towing guide, it looks like 9800 lbs.

That was a link to a fuse.
According to Ford, the 6 Cyl. 3.73 supercrew can tow 5700 lbs.
towing guide (see page 19)

Yeah, I totally botched the link and read the wrong line out of the guide. Sorry, I've edited my original post.

the only weight figure that counts is the original dry weight, plus liquids, plus stuff. if that is under the max tow weight by an adequate amount, you are good to go.
don't let a high GVWR deter you.
JMHO
bumpy

westend wrote:
Don't know where you got the 5700 lb limit from. According to the Ford towing guide, it looks like 9800 lbs.

That was a link to a fuse.
According to Ford, the 6 Cyl. 3.73 supercrew can tow 5700 lbs.
towing guide (see page 19)

westend wrote:
Don't know where you got the 5700 lb limit from. According to the Ford towing guide, it looks like 9800 lbs. You'll never tow that, though, because you'll run out of payload capacity before you reach that weight. The limiting factor when towing with a light truck or SUV is the payload capacity. You have a sticker on the driver's door jamb that lists your payload weight.

Typical loaded travel trailer has a tongue weight of 13% of the total weight. The tongue weight of the trailer + weight of weight distributing hitch + weight of cargo in truck and passengers shouldn't exceed the payload rating.

I doubt this is the EcoBoost...my guess is that it's the 300 hp 3.7 V6. I was looking at the same motor and model and that tow rating is about right for a 3.7 S-crew. Interesting fact is that the S-crew 3.7 has nearly 70 more HP than my old 97 5.4 F150 and it has 2500 lbs less tow rating.

OP....add 1500 lbs to the dry weight and you will be "about" ready to camp.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

The limiting factor when towing with a light truck or SUV is the payload capacity. You have a sticker on the driver's door jamb that lists your payload weight.

Typical loaded travel trailer has a tongue weight of 13% of the total weight. The tongue weight of the trailer + weight of weight distributing hitch + weight of cargo in truck and passengers shouldn't exceed the payload rating.