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- memtbExplorer
azrving wrote:
memtb wrote:
pianotuna wrote:
I believe Ford owns Volvo. Volvo has a full slate of electric vehicles coming down the pipeline.
"Jul 5, 2017 - Volvo Cars on Wednesday became the first mainstream automaker to sound the death knell of the internal combustion engine, saying that all the models it introduces starting in 2019 will be either hybrids or powered solely by batteries."
If they’are as reliable as Chinese dry cell ( a,aa,c,d, etc.).....it may not get out of the driveway! :)
Do you mean batteries like the Amazon brand? :)
“Prexactly “! :B - azrvingExplorer
memtb wrote:
pianotuna wrote:
I believe Ford owns Volvo. Volvo has a full slate of electric vehicles coming down the pipeline.
"Jul 5, 2017 - Volvo Cars on Wednesday became the first mainstream automaker to sound the death knell of the internal combustion engine, saying that all the models it introduces starting in 2019 will be either hybrids or powered solely by batteries."
If they’are as reliable as Chinese dry cell ( a,aa,c,d, etc.).....it may not get out of the driveway! :)
Do you mean batteries like the Amazon brand? :) - memtbExplorer
pianotuna wrote:
I believe Ford owns Volvo. Volvo has a full slate of electric vehicles coming down the pipeline.
"Jul 5, 2017 - Volvo Cars on Wednesday became the first mainstream automaker to sound the death knell of the internal combustion engine, saying that all the models it introduces starting in 2019 will be either hybrids or powered solely by batteries."
If they’are as reliable as Chinese dry cell ( a,aa,c,d, etc.).....it may not get out of the driveway! :) - memtbExplorer
John & Angela wrote:
memtb wrote:
time2roll wrote:
Ductape wrote:
My truck goes 175-200 miles max when towing. One fill en-route is usually enough. If that fill took an 60 to 90 minutes I would be OK as the price is under $1 per gallon for equivalent miles. The second fill on the road would be a bit much. However recharging overnight in the campground would be great.memtb wrote:
When: They can tow 20K lbs, with a minimum of 400 miles between charges....and you can re-charge in 15 minutes or less! :)
What about all those Chevies with 26 (?) gallon tanks? ;)
I have been driving an EV since May 2011 and I agree the battery technology can still use some improvement for long distance towing. Day to day use the EV is wonderful. Zero maintenance, just some warranty repairs and tires so far. Repair expenses could make a diesel owner balk but they seem to be infrequent and should come down with higher production.
Re-charging in campgrounds is nice.... unless you boondock. I guess that we will be limited to areas were there are an abundance of “current bushes”! :h
We’ll, most campgrounds don’t have gas stations either soooo what do you do now.
Try “not” to use campgrounds :B. If we must.... we usually find an extra 15 minutes and a fuel station somewhere along the highway! ;) - 8_1_VanExplorer
pianotuna wrote:
I believe Ford owns Volvo. Volvo has a full slate of electric vehicles coming down the pipeline.
"Jul 5, 2017 - Volvo Cars on Wednesday became the first mainstream automaker to sound the death knell of the internal combustion engine, saying that all the models it introduces starting in 2019 will be either hybrids or powered solely by batteries."
Here's Why Ford Sold Volvo To China For A 72% Loss - pianotunaNomad IIIThere is one person on Facebook who uses a solar powered bus. I do not remember the details.
memtb wrote:
Re-charging in campgrounds is nice.... unless you boondock. I guess that we will be limited to areas were there are an abundance of “current bushes”! :h - pianotunaNomad IIII believe Ford owns Volvo. Volvo has a full slate of electric vehicles coming down the pipeline.
"Jul 5, 2017 - Volvo Cars on Wednesday became the first mainstream automaker to sound the death knell of the internal combustion engine, saying that all the models it introduces starting in 2019 will be either hybrids or powered solely by batteries." - John___AngelaExplorer
memtb wrote:
time2roll wrote:
Ductape wrote:
My truck goes 175-200 miles max when towing. One fill en-route is usually enough. If that fill took an 60 to 90 minutes I would be OK as the price is under $1 per gallon for equivalent miles. The second fill on the road would be a bit much. However recharging overnight in the campground would be great.memtb wrote:
When: They can tow 20K lbs, with a minimum of 400 miles between charges....and you can re-charge in 15 minutes or less! :)
What about all those Chevies with 26 (?) gallon tanks? ;)
I have been driving an EV since May 2011 and I agree the battery technology can still use some improvement for long distance towing. Day to day use the EV is wonderful. Zero maintenance, just some warranty repairs and tires so far. Repair expenses could make a diesel owner balk but they seem to be infrequent and should come down with higher production.
Re-charging in campgrounds is nice.... unless you boondock. I guess that we will be limited to areas were there are an abundance of “current bushes”! :h
We’ll, most campgrounds don’t have gas stations either soooo what do you do now. - memtbExplorer
time2roll wrote:
Ductape wrote:
My truck goes 175-200 miles max when towing. One fill en-route is usually enough. If that fill took an 60 to 90 minutes I would be OK as the price is under $1 per gallon for equivalent miles. The second fill on the road would be a bit much. However recharging overnight in the campground would be great.memtb wrote:
When: They can tow 20K lbs, with a minimum of 400 miles between charges....and you can re-charge in 15 minutes or less! :)
What about all those Chevies with 26 (?) gallon tanks? ;)
I have been driving an EV since May 2011 and I agree the battery technology can still use some improvement for long distance towing. Day to day use the EV is wonderful. Zero maintenance, just some warranty repairs and tires so far. Repair expenses could make a diesel owner balk but they seem to be infrequent and should come down with higher production.
Re-charging in campgrounds is nice.... unless you boondock. I guess that we will be limited to areas were there are an abundance of “current bushes”! :h - John___AngelaExplorer
azrving wrote:
I'm not pointing at you John & Angela. It is interesting reading when you look at things such as what energy source the battery charging comes from. Some states like Cali have more solar, some have more hydro and some use more coal.
Since I was in high and they warned of the coming ice age that would crush everything with advancing glaciers I always figured the answer is in the sun. There is so much available no we just need to keep working on the ways to store it. Those include everything from from pumped storage which probably more common then people realize to loaded trains. They are not as quick in responding to grid demands but are all pieces of the storage problem.
I have mentioned it before but it will be interesting to see when they reach the point of installing a brush less motor as part of each wheel assembly.
The motor technology is interesting to follow although a lot of it is out of my paygrade. IN our province pretty much all of the power that charges our two EV's come from water. I lightly follow where various countries get their power from although not closely. The general trend in the world seems to be from cleaner sources. Our principal reason for liking EV's is the driving experience and they have low operating expenses. I think different EV owners buy EV's for different reasons although from those we talk to I would think the majority don't buy EV's for enviromental reasons. The first time you drive an EV you kinda get an ah ha moment and you never go back. Obviously not everybodies lifestyle suits an EV.
The more I think about it I think just from the recharge infrastructure point of view I would prefer Tesla to make a pickup. In Europe and china it wouldn't really matter as the infrastructure build out is significant but in North America although there is some build out it still really is a Tesla game. Having said that the west coast from Mexico to Canada included is actually not bad for non Tesla facilities. A few more years will bring it a long way. I hope ford or Nissan gets serious about a light truck EV with 6000 or 7000 pounds of towing.
The model X has 5000 pounds towing but it is too pricey for many of us. A model 3 with 4000 pounds towing would probably get the attention of a lot of weekend campers. There does seem to be talk of it and some are waiting to see if there will be a tow package next year. Many think the model Y will have a standard tow package. But an open box version would be nice...and handy.
We are good with our EV's for a few years. IN 2020 we will look a little closer whats out there.
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