StableLoads - Upper or Lower?

Hedge,
You will not get much, if any lift out of a set of Stable Loads.
If you have upper secondaries, I would attach them between the main pack and the secondaries. Your loaded rig will just not get as much droop with Stable Loads since the secondaries come into play sooner.
Attaching the little stops between the lower overload spring and the main pack accomplishes the same lack of droop, but at the expense of spring travel. Plus, it's a bit stiffer ride when you bring the overloads into play right away. The overload spring is not made to flex very much, if any so the ride in that arrangement does suffer.
jefe

well, neither.
To raise the rear, get airbags. most do this just for looks. airbags even plumbed separately will not do much for sway (or stable loads).
To control sway, get a helwig sway bar. the stock 5/8 sway bar is useless with a camper.

I wont use the upper stableloads as they put way more force on the upper overload mounts than designed for. I won't use lowers as they prevent the spring pack from resting flat on the lower overload leaf.

When full compressed, the whole pack, including the upper and lower overload leaves, all lay flat on one another. Either stableload device disrupts this and puts all the stress in 2 spots.

This is just my engineering opinion... Others have had good experiences with them.

I did the upper stable loads and it helped with sway but didn't do much for leveling the load. I used Firestone work rites and this helped level the truck.

mooring product wrote:
I did the upper stable loads and it helped with sway but didn't do much for leveling the load. I used Firestone work rites and this helped level the truck.

+1 as a good combination on Dodges.

Honestly for me I added a extra leaf spring to each rear pack. That gave extra lift. Have airlift 5000's plumbed separately but only put 10 or 20 pounds. 1 ton Helwig sway bar too but extra leaf spring made big difference.

billyray50 wrote:
Honestly for me I added a extra leaf spring to each rear pack. That gave extra lift. Have airlift 5000's plumbed separately but only put 10 or 20 pounds. 1 ton Helwig sway bar too but extra leaf spring made big difference.

Are you loaded with the camper full time? My Dodge truck rides like a turn of the 19th century covered wagon when not loaded so I'd fear an addition of leaf springs for every day ride. Other makes of trucks might ride differently or SRW vs. DRW?

I just installed the upper stableloads and I love them. No, no lift when empty but it doesn't sag as much under load. Little to no effect on empty ride. I don't wnat to deal with air bags and their very high cost unless the stableloads aren't capable of doing the job. At which time, the combination of air bags and SLs is supposed to be superior.

Per Wikipedia "an anti-sway or anti-roll bar is intended to force each side of the vehicle to lower, or rise, to similar heights, to reduce the sideways tilting (roll) of the vehicle" using the principle of a torsion spring not associated with the vehicle's leaf springs.

Per Torklift, a Stableload "pre-activates the stabilizing effect designed for rear springs by keeping them actively under load" or uses early spring loading to tranfer the increasing load on the outside turn spring back across the rear end assembly to the inside turn springs.

My understanding is the two technologies work interdependently to basically achieve the same thing. So is using both better than using one? And how so?

I have the upper Stable Loads on my 3500 Dodge, works great to get the overload springs in play sooner, and when the truck is empty, they don't even hit the stops, so it rides just like it did before the Stable Loads, rough as hell

Super_Dave wrote:

billyray50 wrote:
Honestly for me I added a extra leaf spring to each rear pack. That gave extra lift. Have airlift 5000's plumbed separately but only put 10 or 20 pounds. 1 ton Helwig sway bar too but extra leaf spring made big difference.

Are you loaded with the camper full time? My Dodge truck rides like a turn of the 19th century covered wagon when not loaded so I'd fear an addition of leaf springs for every day ride. Other makes of trucks might ride differently or SRW vs. DRW?

My Dodge rode like a covered wagon too empty since I bought it off the lot!! Kidney basher!! Very stout suspension with I think is good. So adding a leaf spring to me did not make that much worse to me. Not full time but I drive our car around for all other activities unless I need the truck bed.