Starcraft Launch 16RB

http://www.amazon.com/Tote-N-Stor-25607-Portable-Waste-Transport/dp/B004TOB6EW/ref=pd_sim_sbs_indust_1

Thanks again Dave,

I did find it online this afternoon and requested on. I also shared most of my message above regarding concerns about the Launch. They say they'll contact me. We'll see. Will share what I learn.

Will also look into the waste tote. 15 gallons of water eh. Dependent on the desity, but 1 gallon of water weighs 8 pounds, so 15 gallons of water with a density of 1 is 125.181095 pounds. Liquids move when lifted. Have you tried moving it yet? How do you haul it?

See: http://www.endmemo.com/cconvert/lbsgalus.php

Cheers,
Chris

Mine did come with a users manual and it is available on starcrafts website in PDF format. You might have to dig around for it.

I also installed the vent cover over the bath vent and that is a great improvement. I haven't closed the vent since.

The waste tote is exactly that. You can hook your waste hose to it and dump either of your waste tanks into it. Then haul it to a dump station. Versus hooking up and hauling the entire trailer. I got mine from amazon for right around $100.

I'm disappointed that the waste tanks aren't larger. All trailers in the same class have at least twice the capicity. Oh well, that's one thing I wish I'd have done some more reasearch on.

I also noticed that the ac fan is loud, but there's not much that I can do now.

We'll figure these out together. If you have any questions, let me know.

Thanks for your note Dave,

Glad your new trailer is working out well for you! We picked ours up last week and took it camping on Sunday. Set up was remarkably easy and straight forward. Generally we are very happy with it. My wife figured out how to use the back cushions from the dinette to extend the front bed so we can sleep with our heads at the front. This is a major improvement for me as I am 6'6". Now I can stretch out and move at night more comfortably. Also helps since our Chocolate Lab expects to sleep with us.

So far our main complaint is, like yours, that with just my wife and I using it at night really (#1 only) the light gauge for both the black and grey water tanks went to three of four lights lit in less than 48 hours. We took no showers in the trailer and washed very few dishes. Not sure how they expect a trailer that can sleep 6-8 to get by with that configuration. For the money that seems a poor choice.

We wondered if maybe the gauge is malfunctioning some how or if we are misreading it. E means empty and F means full right, so with three lights lit that means the black and grey water tanks are mostly full right?

Please tell me, what is a 15 gallons tote and how does it work? Extra or overflow tank? Thanks.

Also got to say the "instructions" that come with the trailer are not user friendly at all. They are more about installation of each individual product than for use of the product. After your orientation at the dealer I asked and was assured there is a users manual, that would help when it comes time for me to do each to the important tasks. When I called from the campsite the service manager told me his experience with the papers provided with the trailer has been the same as mine -- NOT THERE.

Lighting the hot water heater was a trip because the instructions are not user friendly, the pilot knob was did not line up with the red button and of course there was no diagram to show where the actual pilot is located.

Would think they could put together an owners manual that is designed to for the user.

Also cannot figure out why the vent in the bathroom ceiling is over the toilet. Sure would seem to make more sense to have it over the shower for both ventilation of heat and humidity, and so that if it rains while the vent is open the rain comes in in the shower not on the toilet or the person sitting on the commode.

I did get one of the covers for the vent which I will install just need to get my tall ladder and the trailer in the same place at the same time.

The air conditioner/fan is very loud even on low which makes it impossible to listen to the radio or watch TV, DVD, etc while the AC is on. Again, for the money that seems a poor choice.

Anyway, frankly I am thinking all the manufacturers do it the same way. However, I will say that our 1998 Forest River Rockwood Premier pop-up came with an owner's manual and it is also available online.

Let me know what you think and how you like it as you go along the rode. Glad you are enjoying it so far. Thanks again.

Cheers,
Chris

So,

How do you like it? I also picked up a 2014 launch 16rb at the end of June. So far, I love it. My only complaint is the 9 gallon black tank. We (wife and myself) made it through a couple of weekends of camping with no room to spare in the tank. I just purchased a 15 gallon tote so I don't have to worry about this in the future. I am currently in the process of adding color changing LED's under the awning. I will post pictures when complete.

Dave

Thanks swoter, good to know, we are going with it, picking it up this sometime this week. Cheers!

We have a 2012 Starcraft 15rb and like it very much. Haven't had any problems with it yet.

Thanks very much, one note about the beds in the 2013, I am 6'6" and fit on the beds fine. So that's good. Thanks again!

Welcome to the forums Chris
If you're okay with the specs and have looked it over then go for it. Can you make due with a 9 gallon black tank, the 4 cu' fridge, 70" long beds, and I don't see a Ward/Closet to carry jackets and such. I see they've bumped up the 1 year warranty to 2 which is good. I'm happy with our older Starcraft but haven't looked over the new ones. Our 18SB is really 16' inside, I'm guessing the 16RB is really 15'4", the extra width in the 17A or X would sure be nice in a small trailer, wish I had it. We find our 18 is okay for the 2 of us, if we had more people it'd be too small.

When we first began looking we looked at StarCraft products, mainly the AR-One. We ended up going in a different direction which suited us better. My personal opinion is there are other models that are of the same quality that can be had for less money. I would also say to you, If you find something you like and it suits you, buy it!
You might look into Forest River's Roo, Shamrock, and R-Pod