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lenr
Aug 19, 2016Explorer III
Part 2--The Ford 6.7 diesel has nothing to do with prior engines which were co-designed with International and built by International. This engine was a green field design with an Austrian firm and is built by Ford in Mexico (in case that bothers you.) It was designed with modern energy efficiency techniques and uses 6 head bolts per cylinder so that they don't have to relive the 6.0 story again. Much repair can now be done without removing the cab. It puts out the most HP of the big 3 and keeps up with RAM on torque. It is a towing beast. Yes it uses the Bosch CP4 HPFP as does GM. These pumps are just fine as long as you do not add gasoline, ethanol, water, DEF, etc. to the fuel. GM has been more generous with repair when the HPFP blows than Ford, but they've got more ground to make up. Ford will repair under warranty if there is no foreign material present. On other sites, there are plenty of examples of little or no problems with the 6.7 with many miles. I have 69,000 mi with no problems other than the famous buzzing sound from the waste valve control which Ford fixed for free for me. It just makes an annoying noise without affecting performance.
Soot regen process has been greatly improved to consume less fuel. When towing the engine temperature alone will get the job done without introducing additional fuel. We towed in August (+90 degree) through Wyoming and never regened once.
The DEF process is nothing--just wait until you've gone 2 fillups past the half down warning, and through a whole jug in. The DEF design significantly improves fuel mileage. The RAM engines just before and just after they went to DEF improved mileage and torque at the same time.
Cost on a diesel is mostly up front with a little more on maintenance and fuel. As pointed out he fuel cost may go away--it does here in the mid-west every summer. Yes, filters and oil are more expensive, but seriously how many do you buy over the life of a truck? Just a few more--not a deal breaker. I believe that the break even point is between 100k and 200k miles, and since I plan on keeping for 200k mi there is no question for me. If you trade before 100k mi, then there is little doubt that gas is less expensive--if that's all that matters.
Soot regen process has been greatly improved to consume less fuel. When towing the engine temperature alone will get the job done without introducing additional fuel. We towed in August (+90 degree) through Wyoming and never regened once.
The DEF process is nothing--just wait until you've gone 2 fillups past the half down warning, and through a whole jug in. The DEF design significantly improves fuel mileage. The RAM engines just before and just after they went to DEF improved mileage and torque at the same time.
Cost on a diesel is mostly up front with a little more on maintenance and fuel. As pointed out he fuel cost may go away--it does here in the mid-west every summer. Yes, filters and oil are more expensive, but seriously how many do you buy over the life of a truck? Just a few more--not a deal breaker. I believe that the break even point is between 100k and 200k miles, and since I plan on keeping for 200k mi there is no question for me. If you trade before 100k mi, then there is little doubt that gas is less expensive--if that's all that matters.
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