Synthetic Oil for Towing?

ah64id wrote:

zogg wrote:

That being said, my new Ram is supposed to use 5w20 oil, which I will certainly use.

Your sig doesn't state if you have a 1500 or 2500, but I don't think the 8 speed is a 2500 option. Thou I don't see buying a new 1500 with a trailer of the size/weight in your sig.

The 2500 with a 5.7 recommends 5w-20 under 14K GCW. Above 14K GCW it calls for 5w-30.

Either way with a 7K+ lb trailer I would be looking at 5w-30, Dodge wants a heavier oil in the 5.7s that work. The lighter oil is for increased economy, but it doesn't protect as well under continuous high power use.

I need to update the signature...sorry

I do, in fact , have a new 1500....I had a 2500 and hated the ride for a daily driver. When I owned the 2500, I called Chrysler and they said I could run 5w30 with no issue since I did NOT have the MDS engine. The MDS feature that shuts down cylinders absolutely requires 5w20.....again, directly from Chrysler.

I had a.2005 F250 with a V10, a Ford required 5w20 there also....in over 120,000 miles of tough hauling, I got terrible mileage but never any engine issues....I often expected.it would be a quart low, but it never was......

ib516 wrote:

srt20 wrote:

ib516 wrote:

srt20 wrote:
How many people on here have oil temp gauges?

Every new RAM has one. My 2014 Jeep has one.

And what is the oil temp difference between a cold winter day, and a warm/hot day?

I'll let you know when some of that warm stuff comes our way. It was -20*C here this morning dammit! :)

What's is the oil temp during a cold day? Also what is the engine coolant temp during that same time?

Thanks

srt20 wrote:

ib516 wrote:

srt20 wrote:
How many people on here have oil temp gauges?

Every new RAM has one. My 2014 Jeep has one.

And what is the oil temp difference between a cold winter day, and a warm/hot day?

I'll let you know when some of that warm stuff comes our way. It was -20*C here this morning dammit! :)

ib516 wrote:

srt20 wrote:
How many people on here have oil temp gauges?

Every new RAM has one. My 2014 Jeep has one.

And what is the oil temp difference between a cold winter day, and a warm/hot day?

ah64id wrote:

zogg wrote:

That being said, my new Ram is supposed to use 5w20 oil, which I will certainly use.

Your sig doesn't state if you have a 1500 or 2500, but I don't think the 8 speed is a 2500 option. Thou I don't see buying a new 1500 with a trailer of the size/weight in your sig.

The 2500 with a 5.7 recommends 5w-20 under 14K GCW. Above 14K GCW it calls for 5w-30.

Either way with a 7K+ lb trailer I would be looking at 5w-30, Dodge wants a heavier oil in the 5.7s that work. The lighter oil is for increased economy, but it doesn't protect as well under continuous high power use.

The 6.4L Hemi uses synthetic ONLY, and it's 0w40 - same as the SRT cars and SUVs.

srt20 wrote:
How many people on here have oil temp gauges?

Every new RAM has one. My 2014 Jeep has one.

zogg wrote:

That being said, my new Ram is supposed to use 5w20 oil, which I will certainly use.

Your sig doesn't state if you have a 1500 or 2500, but I don't think the 8 speed is a 2500 option. Thou I don't see buying a new 1500 with a trailer of the size/weight in your sig.

The 2500 with a 5.7 recommends 5w-20 under 14K GCW. Above 14K GCW it calls for 5w-30.

Either way with a 7K+ lb trailer I would be looking at 5w-30, Dodge wants a heavier oil in the 5.7s that work. The lighter oil is for increased economy, but it doesn't protect as well under continuous high power use.

How many people on here have oil temp gauges?

Certainly the technology of engine manufacturing today is better than ever before. Also, the quality of all oils is superior to oil of past decades. Even conventional oils have a lot of synthetic components, which makes them so superior.
That being said, my new Ram is supposed to use 5w20 oil, which I will certainly use. Chrysler engineers surely know more about the technology than I do.
While synthetic oil is not required. I intend to use it as I have in the past. As noted it flows better in cold weather and dissipates heat better in extreme conditions.
I used to use Redline or Royal Purple oils, but $8 a quart or more seems to be over kill as I have done more research. So for my last two trucks I've opted to use Wal-Mart's specials.....quaker state ultimate synthetic oils runs $21 for five quarts, which is only $5 more than conventional Pennzoil. I feel that the Pennzoil conventional would certainly do the job, but I tow pretty heavy, at 8000 pounds, so the extra $5 makes me feel like I'm doing more than I need to do, and I sleep better.....haha

FishOnOne wrote:

ib516 wrote:
Most people on these forums know almost nothing about oil other than it's a brown liquid. They rely on what their dad's cousin told them about oil - and he knows what he knows because he worked at a gas station when he was a kid.

The fact is, synthetic oil is superior to conventional oil. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't have a clue.

The debate comes in where you decide whether or not the benefits it has are worth the extra cost to you and your driving situation.

If you really want to learn about oil - surf on over to the forums at bobistheoilguy.com. There are people there that actually know what they are talking about.

Why don't you share some statistically significant UOA showing that synthetic oil produce better wear metals than conventional oils when used when used intended and following the OLM on the same engine?

It's obvious your included in your "most people on this forum know nothing about oil". :W

Use the correct API rated oil, viscosity and don't exceed the OLM and your good to go.

No...not always.
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