Tesla Launch of Pick-Up

I hope more and more people switch to electric vehicles, that will mean more oil available on the world market and cheaper fuel prices for our real trucks. Oil price dropped again today, $46.00 a barrel!:B

ShinerBock wrote:

NJRVer wrote:

Your city's power company must be pretty backwards.
Go into any area of population and all you have to do is look up at the poles and see the lines that are run. In NJ the power companies keep up with development. Large power hog coming in, power company makes sure they can handle it. If not they will be stringing more cable on the poles. Not unusual to see 6 lines on one pole around here with all the development. This is just the regular wooden telephone pole on the side of the road, not the high tension towers.

Compare that to rural NC where I own property and there is one strand of wire on a telephone pole that is about 30% smaller than the poles here in NJ and the one wire on that pole looks like a piece of Romex.
Not going to run very many MegaChargers off that line.

Apparently my cities utility is not alone.....

Vast Majority of Utilities Just Beginning to Cope With EV Growth

If they don't have plans to handle EV cars in just 10-15 years, then how can they also handle EV semi's as well?

Forget the survey monkeys and self proclaimed pundits. Check with your actual utility. Is SATX San Antonio TX? Is that CPS energy?

CPS Energy is embracing plug-in vehicles

Jersey Central seems to encourage EVs

As for that single wire power transmission line.... is your phone still on a party line too? Perfect reason to pull the other two wires and get proper three phase power to your area. How long do you plan to have this out dated line limit the local economy and growth? Dang it this is America... get moving already. We were once a nation of doers instead of whiners.

NJRVer wrote:
Your city's power company must be pretty backwards.
Go into any area of population and all you have to do is look up at the poles and see the lines that are run. In NJ the power companies keep up with development. Large power hog coming in, power company makes sure they can handle it. If not they will be stringing more cable on the poles. Not unusual to see 6 lines on one pole around here with all the development. This is just the regular wooden telephone pole on the side of the road, not the high tension towers.

Compare that to rural NC where I own property and there is one strand of wire on a telephone pole that is about 30% smaller than the poles here in NJ and the one wire on that pole looks like a piece of Romex.
Not going to run very many MegaChargers off that line.

It doesn't sound NJ can handle the current peak loads in the summer:

https://patch.com/new-jersey/berkeley-nj/central-regional-students-shelter-place-due-brownout

This is not to pick on any one region - It happens everywhere and infrastructure really does not have that much reserve built up.

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:


Now you just transitioned from wet blanket to a whiner!

Wow, even more insults!

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
Back to topic, utilities who will not prepare for the advent of EVs for which every car company is going will just be passing opportunities -- as your link suggest that they are now aware.

For them, it's adapt or perish.

That is not exactly how it works. Municipal, federal, state or Coop utility doesn't need to adapt or perish. Their funding does not work like that of IOU's.

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
And I beg you, don't rain on my Tesla RV configured like their super-streamlined semis.

Oh, I am sorry. I did not know this was a Tesla safe space and we are all suppose look through rose colored glasses only posting positive things about Tesla or what they(or any EV maker) will need to do to be viable.

ShinerBock wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:


Might as well, there are people who simply can't compete in high-knowledge high-tech California. And other states are attracting them with poverty-level wages for their low standard of level locations.

Wow, I have never seen that much arrogance, ignorance, and assumption all in one paragraph.

Oh yeah, do you want to agree agains the current US demographic shift?

Suggested reading: Bloomberg (in an article today).

Demographic shifts is one thing, but arrogantly assuming that the people leaving because they are not skilled or educated workers instead of even considering the fact that higher cost of living brought on by higher taxes and regulation has anything to with it is another. Then there is the assumption that if they are leaving, then they must be drawn in by poverty level pay. This not the case for many people who are relocating as stated in the articles I posted and many other that I have read on the subject.

Suggested learning: How to link a website.

Now you just transitioned from wet blanket to a whiner!

And what or who I vote is none of your business. This is not a political forum.

It is just economics and demographics. Since you posit CA and high-tax high cost-of living state, naturally people who can't afford it will leave. And those who can afford it are either highly skilled and highly educated who can command higher pay.

Another transition will be for sweat shops to leave since either they can't have low skilled workers (who since moved) or workers who are willing to accept low wages.

And please, can we move on to state vs state posts. Remember this is Tesla and EV cars and trucks. I don't want to go where California is subsidizing with our taxes those poor states, lol.

Back to topic, utilities who will not prepare for the advent of EVs for which every car company is going will just be passing opportunities -- as your link suggest that they are now aware.

For them, it's adapt or perish.

And I beg you, don't rain on my Tesla RV configured like their super-streamlined semis.

NJRVer wrote:

Your city's power company must be pretty backwards.
Go into any area of population and all you have to do is look up at the poles and see the lines that are run. In NJ the power companies keep up with development. Large power hog coming in, power company makes sure they can handle it. If not they will be stringing more cable on the poles. Not unusual to see 6 lines on one pole around here with all the development. This is just the regular wooden telephone pole on the side of the road, not the high tension towers.

Compare that to rural NC where I own property and there is one strand of wire on a telephone pole that is about 30% smaller than the poles here in NJ and the one wire on that pole looks like a piece of Romex.
Not going to run very many MegaChargers off that line.

Apparently my cities utility is not alone.....

Vast Majority of Utilities Just Beginning to Cope With EV Growth

If they don't have plans to handle EV cars in just 10-15 years, then how can they also handle EV semi's as well?

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
Please posters, please be a little more understanding. ShinerBock is a wet blanket who sees a very dark cloud in every silver lining.

Sorry Bock, can't help myself again (the devil made me to it!).

Again, arrogance that just because someone disagrees with you means that some how they are lesser than you or something is wrong with them. People can disagree without being inferior to each other. I am going to go on a limb here and say you vote blue.

NJRVer wrote:

LOL!
You obviously didn't read the article as "line carrying ability" is the point of the product they invented.

LOL, and those are not the lines I am talking about. The ones I am referring to are the ones from the substation to the end user. Not from the power plant to the substation.

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:


Might as well, there are people who simply can't compete in high-knowledge high-tech California. And other states are attracting them with poverty-level wages for their low standard of level locations.

Wow, I have never seen that much arrogance, ignorance, and assumption all in one paragraph.

Oh yeah, do you want to agree agains the current US demographic shift?

Suggested reading: Bloomberg (in an article today).

Demographic shifts is one thing, but arrogantly assuming that the people leaving because they are not skilled or educated workers instead of even considering the fact that higher cost of living brought on by higher taxes and regulation has anything to with it is another. Then there is the assumption that if they are leaving, then they must be drawn in by poverty level pay. This not the case for many people who are relocating as stated in the articles I posted and many other that I have read on the subject.

Suggested learning: How to link a website.

ShinerBock wrote:

NJRVer wrote:


Power companies should look into this.

https://www.ctcglobal.com/blog/importance-transmission-line-efficiency/

LOL, high voltage lines are not what I am talking about. It is the lines from the substations to the users. These high power lines deliver electricity from the power plant to substations and adequate in most areas. The lines from the substation to the user, however, are not in most areas.

Also, line efficiency has nothing to do with it. It is line carrying ability that is of a concern. A certain size line can only carry so much energy. More energy being transfered require bigger line.

Your city's power company must be pretty backwards.
Go into any area of population and all you have to do is look up at the poles and see the lines that are run. In NJ the power companies keep up with development. Large power hog coming in, power company makes sure they can handle it. If not they will be stringing more cable on the poles. Not unusual to see 6 lines on one pole around here with all the development. This is just the regular wooden telephone pole on the side of the road, not the high tension towers.

Compare that to rural NC where I own property and there is one strand of wire on a telephone pole that is about 30% smaller than the poles here in NJ and the one wire on that pole looks like a piece of Romex.
Not going to run very many MegaChargers off that line.