TFL Gold Hitch Awards 2020

FishOnOne wrote:

kw/00 wrote:
So getting back on topic.... interesting for sure thus far.. but I’m interested in the Chevy 3.0 Duramax down the road for sure. On the topic of HD trucks I really like the GM series, however i am a fan of the Cummins so my vote would be for the Ram for HD diesel use. That’s coming from a guy who owns a 3/4 ton GMC gas job. Anyway have worked on several engines and the inline series engines just last a long time due to design. If I would keep gas for HD duties down the road.. it would be a hard choice between the gas 6.6 GM or Ford 7.3. Again just my preference.

My parents had a GMC Envoy that had a inline engine that had nothing but problems. Having said that I think the new 3.0 Duramax has some interesting features so we'll have to see how that plays out.

I noticed the Gold Hitch Award excluded gas powered HD trucks this year but if they did I'm sure the 7.3 would have won.

Yep that inline engine used in that series of trucks and suvs was not very good for sure. Some had good luck but most did not.... yes I agree that the 7.3 would win... I think Ford hit a home run so far with that engine.

FishOnOne wrote:

larry barnhart wrote:
My neighbor where when we winter has a new MH with a 500 HP cummins. Burns one gallon of oil on each fuel fill up. Will it get better with more miles??

chevman

The new 6.7 cummins appear to have some oil consumption issues and I'm wondering if its from the new block or low tension rings. Either way any oil consumption on a DPF equipped truck can't be a good thing IMO.

Man you sure have a lot of knowledge I have never heard. I am a member of the premier CUMMINS/RAM Forum TDR and have NEVER heard such a thing.

larry barnhart wrote:
My neighbor where when we winter has a new MH with a 500 HP cummins. Burns one gallon of oil on each fuel fill up. Will it get better with more miles??

chevman

Well If he checks level when fueling right after shutting down it’s going to be low.

Now if he has a 700 mile range it sure could be one qt low if new.

Lots of it depends.

larry barnhart wrote:
My neighbor where when we winter has a new MH with a 500 HP cummins. Burns one gallon of oil on each fuel fill up. Will it get better with more miles??

chevman

The new 6.7 cummins appear to have some oil consumption issues and I'm wondering if its from the new block or low tension rings. Either way any oil consumption on a DPF equipped truck can't be a good thing IMO.

kw/00 wrote:
So getting back on topic.... interesting for sure thus far.. but I’m interested in the Chevy 3.0 Duramax down the road for sure. On the topic of HD trucks I really like the GM series, however i am a fan of the Cummins so my vote would be for the Ram for HD diesel use. That’s coming from a guy who owns a 3/4 ton GMC gas job. Anyway have worked on several engines and the inline series engines just last a long time due to design. If I would keep gas for HD duties down the road.. it would be a hard choice between the gas 6.6 GM or Ford 7.3. Again just my preference.

My parents had a GMC Envoy that had a inline engine that had nothing but problems. Having said that I think the new 3.0 Duramax has some interesting features so we'll have to see how that plays out.

I noticed the Gold Hitch Award excluded gas powered HD trucks this year but if they did I'm sure the 7.3 would have won.

My neighbor where when we winter has a new MH with a 500 HP cummins. Burns one gallon of oil on each fuel fill up. Will it get better with more miles??

chevman

So getting back on topic.... interesting for sure thus far.. but I’m interested in the Chevy 3.0 Duramax down the road for sure. On the topic of HD trucks I really like the GM series, however i am a fan of the Cummins so my vote would be for the Ram for HD diesel use. That’s coming from a guy who owns a 3/4 ton GMC gas job. Anyway have worked on several engines and the inline series engines just last a long time due to design. If I would keep gas for HD duties down the road.. it would be a hard choice between the gas 6.6 GM or Ford 7.3. Again just my preference.

MikeRP wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Also TFL confirmed that the Adaptive Cruise Control was used on the Ram.

I don't think that was in contention especially since it likely would not kick on due to how slow they were going. The ACC only kicks on the brakes if someone is in front of you going slower than you and I seriously doubt there was someone else going slow enough to force the ACC system to kick on the wheel end brakes the whole way down.

I agree!!! some just can't get over the FACT the CUMMINS EB does the JOB far better than the others. The sad part is there is more weight for the fastest instead of the safest!!!

Depends how you look at it. Even if the Cummins was able to hold the weight back on that grade in second gear you have to realize it was in second gear and only had 1 gear left for steep grades. The Ford was in third gear so if I was going to take a 30,000 lb trailer down a 14 % grade I'd be much more comfortable doing it with the GM or Ford from a safety perspective.

Hey

So when you come out of the tunnel there is a speed limit going down depending upon the weight you are carrying. So It’s probably 35 or 40 mph. Listen I know you got a Ford and it’s ok to be proud of it. I get it, I love Ford too just happen to have a Ram. So the speed limit is all about safety, I appreciate your opinion but really think about it, for me hitting the brake zero times is an amazing achievement. The facts are the facts. Ram blew that one out of the park.

One of the things you think about going downhill is the diesel going into limp mode because of higher sustained rpm’s. In fact the smaller diesels, I know Ford and Ram too maybe had an issue with this. Imagine hauling 30,000 and the truck goes into limp mode.

That’s another reason I think Ram-hit it out of the park. To me Tfl exposes therir bias to Ford on this one issue. What do we say, “Work Safely First”. Again I’m not saying that Ford or Gm can’t achieve exactly what Ram has but Ram clearly, on this one issue alone, should have won the Gold Hitch Award and like I said not because I don’t like Ford or Gm. Now if Ram would have used one or two brake applications, I would have said give the Gold Hitch to Ford, but you can’t argue with results.

TFLTruck in my opinion, is at the point that their tests are irrelevant for RVers. So bottom line is with all respect, I don’t agree with your gearing point. Cummins is what it is, a wonderful platform that works across commercial, industrial, utility, farm, off shore, and even our application. It can be programmed quickly and easily is is designed for long term reliability.

There no doubt in my mind that in 5 minutes a Cummins engineer could tweak their new platform to get that minute back out of the speed going up the hill. I think it would take Ford and GM more than 5 minutes, maybe an hour or two to optimize the tranny engine brake for no brake applications going down the hill.

Peace

This has absolutely nothing to do with me touting Ford because I have one. My 2017 Ford is like the Ram ..... it automatically applies the brakes going down a steep grade so zero brake applications are required. I'm certain the 2020 Ford uses the same programming. There is no need for the engineers to tweak anything. Us drivers do need to understand our trucks in order to best use the technology to suit our situations. I think some Ford guys are unaware of the fact that their Ford uses the wheel brakes to help out the exhaust brake when necessary as are the Ram guys.

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"Ram mafia" guys you hate."

Dude have you not figured out he is a Closet RAM Guy?????

I'm part owner of two of them. They're both 5.9's and it's too bad they don't build them anymore.

My pic above must have gotten you a bit "GIDDY".

The shop that built my Son's 12V is in the DFW, TX area. He seems to be a VERY picky and knowledgable guy!

Dials the pistons to within 1 gram of each other!

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"Ram mafia" guys you hate."

Dude have you not figured out he is a Closet RAM Guy?????

I'm part owner of two of them. They're both 5.9's and it's too bad they don't build them anymore.