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- I never drove a Ford before I got my dually. Let me say emphatically, I love it! and I would buy another Ford, hands down. Maybe an Edge or something of the like, but for all the future potential problems with service, body repair and other stuff, well, they may have stepped on it this time! I remember "the New Coke"! Anyone else? Also, anyone who has worked on domestic appliances for a bit will remember the rotary compressor GE used on their refrigerators some years ago. Ford may have a lot of catching up to do when the "rubber meets the road" so to speak. JMHO
- As for size, talking about other places not bed sizes. Crazy me for thinking this way! I will never buy a 40,000 dollar truck anyway. I will wait till that 40,000 dollar truck is about 8,000 and buy one used. Just think price and bling is getting out of control these days. Don't get me wrong, good stuff out there, just cant imagine paying all that money for it.
MARK VANDERBENT wrote:
What I don't understand is they are so worried about going to aluminum to save weight, just make the darn truck a touch smaller !! do we really need the size of trucks we have!! I think we need to down size trucks and the insane power they put out. Dial back on size and power a bit and get the most mpg from that. I don't need a pickup that can get to 60 in 6 seconds. If that's all we worry about, then we wont get good mpg flooring it all the time.
As a contractor I don't want a smaller truck. I need room for tools and material (4X8).hone eagle wrote:
Lessmore wrote:
Sometimes 'good' ideas are not completely...100 %....good ideas. I realize Ford probably chose the F 150 for their first vehicle to have an aluminum body...to improve MPG.
But the F 150 is by far their best selling vehicle. Wonder if it would of been an idea to use one of their cars that doesn't sell as many, to first work out the kinks, etc.
Also be interesting to see if some who are considering a 2015 F 150...if the aluminum body, would be a deal breaker or....not a problem ?
You mean like Jaguar and land rover? They owned them for on about 17 years RR was always Al and Jaguar changed over on Fords watch
I think the owners of expensive luxury jobs...like a Jag or a Land Rover wouldn't be as concerned about 10 % more in repair costs...as Joe Average...the guy who owns one of the best selling vehicles....the F 150. BTW....this is no thing against the F 150 Joe Average...I'm pretty average myself. :)hone eagle wrote:
Plently of al out there now and not noticeably more expensive to insure , as far as repairs nobody does much panel banging anymore just remove and replace,GMI is where I learned this(GM fan site) they are more on board and knowledgeable then the people on this board.
That is true for the hood, and fenders, but what about structural damage to the cab? The cab is all welded.MARK VANDERBENT wrote:
What I don't understand is they are so worried about going to aluminum to save weight, just make the darn truck a touch smaller !! do we really need the size of trucks we have!! I think we need to down size trucks and the insane power they put out. Dial back on size and power a bit and get the most mpg from that. I don't need a pickup that can get to 60 in 6 seconds. If that's all we worry about, then we wont get good mpg flooring it all the time.
That sounds great....until they actually do that and their sales drop through the floor. I believe they actually want to sell trucks, not shoot themselves in the foot by sabotaging their best selling product. Trucks are the size they are and have the power they have for a reason, that reason is because consumers want them that size and with that power. Build what they don't want and they'll walk next door to the chevy dealer and buy a truck with the size and power they want that can get to 60 in 6 seconds.- Plently of al out there now and not noticeably more expensive to insure , as far as repairs nobody does much panel banging anymore just remove and replace,GMI is where I learned this(GM fan site) they are more on board and knowledgeable then the people on this board.
- This is something I thought about when the announcement was made that the F-150 was going to aluminum.
There currently isn't any body shops with the infrastructure in place to fix the aluminum bodies. The ones who can make the investment for the equipment to do so will have a leg up on their competition.
And the aluminum F-150 will be more expensive to insure. No doubt. There is no getting around that. It will certainly be more expensive to repair. Once compromised aluminum will have to be replaced. It cannot be worked like steel.
One other thought on aluminum is crack propagation. Aluminum airplane skin, and OTR diesel truck bodies crack just from stress, flex, and every day usage. Will this affect resale?
How long before the meth heads start stealing them just for the scrap aluminum...... Higher to insure because of the threat of theft.
These are all legitimate things to consider. - No, just downsize the truck but keep the insane power. :D
- What I don't understand is they are so worried about going to aluminum to save weight, just make the darn truck a touch smaller !! do we really need the size of trucks we have!! I think we need to down size trucks and the insane power they put out. Dial back on size and power a bit and get the most mpg from that. I don't need a pickup that can get to 60 in 6 seconds. If that's all we worry about, then we wont get good mpg flooring it all the time.
