The continuing Saga waiting for my new Ram 3500

RamTC wrote:
Hi NC,

Why not wait a month, re-order a 14' while Ram debugs the 13' issues and their part shortages (as we know from the Cummins forum). Hopefully by the 3rd qtr they will have these trucks filling the lots. This whole mess has me now waiting to see what happens as once the camping season is over, I could even wait until next Spring.

If you do look at "your" 13', I'd sure like to know if the new lighting is significant enough for me to go for the Laramie?

I'm "assuming" you're talking about the projection headlights? I saw them on the truck, but don't know anything about them...look cool, if they work the way most do, should be an improvement, I've read about shortages, but everything I ordered in Dec that I wanted on the 13 came on the 13'.....no shortage with the one I ordered. oh, production on 14's doesn't start until August...not interested...I'm getting older by the minute.....had given up on the 13', thus the reason I own a 12'...now, who knows?

Hi NC,

Why not wait a month, re-order a 14' while Ram debugs the 13' issues and their part shortages (as we know from the Cummins forum). Hopefully by the 3rd qtr they will have these trucks filling the lots. This whole mess has me now waiting to see what happens as once the camping season is over, I could even wait until next Spring.

If you do look at "your" 13', I'd sure like to know if the new lighting is significant enough for me to go for the Laramie?

Whatchaupto wrote:
Hi NC Hauler, now that you have towed with the '12, how about giving us a towing comparison between your 'old' '10 and your new '12? Thanks. Don

The difference between the 10 with 350HP and 650ftlb of TQ compared to the 12 with 350 HP and 800ftlb of TQ: The 12' "takes off" a lot faster and builds speed up quicker..least that's the way it seems to me...also has better cooling and that seemed to stand out when pulling long mountainous grades...The 10 was more than capable and the 12 feels stronger for want of a better word...More "grunt"...yeah...that's it:)

Hi NC Hauler, now that you have towed with the '12, how about giving us a towing comparison between your 'old' '10 and your new '12? Thanks. Don

850 ft lbs of stump pulling power and you might walk away from that. You must be getting old. I wouldn't do it because I am old.
chevman

45Ricochet wrote:
Yeah it would drive me nuts also. How many miles are on your current truck Jim? Have you even had a oil change yet :B
What color is it? And your a non-smoker right. How about your current hitch, no bed rails right? Hint-hint :W

Yeah Rick, got 3900 miles on my truck, no oil change, (with 4 free one's coming over a 2 yr period)...same deal on the 2013......

The color is Prairie Brown Pearl coat (two tone, bottom a white gold) ..I saw it and thought it was a great looking truck...drove by the dealership around 7PM Friday on the way up to my camp in WV...dealership was closed, they knew I was coming by, they even left the doors open so I could look through it...got to admit it is a great looking truck..


nope, don't smoke, never have. I have the Reese 20K signature , yeah, I have bed...oh, I get you Rick. IF I trade, somebody going to get a great looking 12'...if I don't trade, I've got a great looking 2012 that tows my 5er very well...:B

Vulcaneer wrote:
Jim, You have a great dealer there. You have mentioned what your terms would be. If that dealer has met them, he really wants your "first Refusal" to be meaningful. That is truly admirable.

I think most dealers would say. "Forget him. Lets just sell it to the next guy that is willing to pay through the nose to get into one of the very first 2013 RAMS dually on the lot." And I am willing to bet there are more than one guy walking through his doors that wants that truck. But the dealer is doing his best to keep it for you.

So just think about that. This really could be your truck. It's Karma. And you really can't upset Karma. Not a good idea.

They do have a couple of others interested in the truck, as well as the other 4 3500's they have coming in and aren't there yet....been dealing with these people for a lot of years and even had the owner talk to me about it...kinda funny....I'm off Wednesday, "IF" everything goes the way I would want it to, then like the fool I am, may have a new truck Wednesday.

larry barnhart wrote:
Jim if you really didn't want the new truck you would have given the dealerships name and phone number so another fine fella could get the chance for a new truck. Just sayin.
chevman

They have my name and number...It came in last Wednesday, my salesman, (since 96'), calls me to tell me it's there and ask if I want to see it...I tell him, "No", not interested, sell to someone else....That's it...end of conversation....I worked last Wednesday and Thursday 12 hr day's, so I get another phone call on Thursday and I'm told they feel bad about the way it all worked out, and I tell the Sales Manager now, I appreciate it, but NOT INTERESTED!!! I mean, how much more plain can you be than that???

I tell them to sell it to someone else.....I'm asked by my salesman, "what would it take", so I come up with some really inane numbers that I KNOW won't be met....and so far, they've met everyone of them.....I mean, stupid numbers for trade in, % interest rate, (though I know I could get a very low one for a short period of time with my credit union,...and again......"just saying", it's really silly because I even had my wife call to tell them I was too busy to talk to them, that I told them to sell it...


NOW, here it is, almost Monday, just got back from 3 day camping trip to WV, so you can see, I didn't hang around to see what happened and they could have sold it for all I cared, BUT....they haven't and "IF" I get the interest rate I want....guess I'll be a fool and buy it..I'm getting a deal I thought I'd NEVER get and haven't done a thing to do it except throw out some inane numbers as to how they might talk me into it.....so far they have...guess dealing with them for a little over 16 yrs and between family and friends I've sent them to purchase vehicles, which equals 70 right now....guess they mean it when they say they value my business and want me to do all they can to get me into the truck that I ordered.
Though, when I purchased the 12', they KNEW I wasn't going to buy the 13', and have ZERO obligation to do so...

So how many times do I tell them, "no, I'm not buying it".....then go as far as to give them some numbers that will seal the deal of me not getting it and they meet my numbers...

Thanks Bionic Man. That was the sort of info I was looking for.

Jim, You have a great dealer there. You have mentioned what your terms would be. If that dealer has met them, he really wants your "first Refusal" to be meaningful. That is truly admirable.

I think most dealers would say. "Forget him. Lets just sell it to the next guy that is willing to pay through the nose to get into one of the very first 2013 RAMS dually on the lot." And I am willing to bet there are more than one guy walking through his doors that wants that truck. But the dealer is doing his best to keep it for you.

So just think about that. This really could be your truck. It's Karma. And you really can't upset Karma. Not a good idea.