Thoughts on this truck please

There has been some questionable business practices with Dick Hannah in the past.....

kwlincoln wrote:
... For their price, I'd buy new. Lower interest rate. Lower maintenance cost. Better fuel economy. Ridiculously better longevity.

better reliability ties in with better longevity too, :)

I wouldn't buy it. I don't even think the price is good, but I live in Texas and we have better options down here. For their price, I'd buy new. Lower interest rate. Lower maintenance cost. Better fuel economy. Ridiculously better longevity.

KD4UPL wrote:
If it has the 6.0 I wouldn't buy it because of all the problems that engine has. We own two at work so I know them firsthand.
If it has the 6.4 I wouldn't buy it because that engine is known to get rather poor fuel mileage and also have a lot of problems. If you must have a Ford I would get a 7.3 or a 6.7.

Exactly why after 43 years of Fords, I now drive a RAM/ Cummins!

There are tons of trucks there in the Couv'. Broaden your search and include the entire Portland Metro Area. Lots of guys like to own trucks for only 2 or 3 years and trade-on. Since Dick Hannah owns just about all those lots, you might as well check out their RAM dealership. Then you have Carr further down 4th plain for GMC and you also have Chevy on the other side of SR500. If you're a Ford fan, I really recommend driving out to Camas, or go into Portland. I personally haven't had good dealings with the Ford dealership near SR500.

That truck is an 03 or 04 model with a 6.0 PSD. I would pass just because of the price.

I have had good luck buying used myself, but sometimes it has been helpful to compare what you can get new as well. If you are borrowing for the truck the interest rate will likely be less on a new vs. used vehicle. With new you also get a warranty (Ram is 5 year, 100k), new tires, new brakes, new battery, etc. What is that worth? Just for comparison here is a new Ram Crew Cab in cherry red or white for $33k in Eugene. From everything I have read the 6.4L looks to be a good engine with pretty reasonable milage (ask ib516).

Ram 2500 Tradesman Crew cab w/6.4L

The Ducks are playing at the Rose Bowl so traffic won't be too bad if you wanted to take a look. :)

As mentioned I have had luck with used myself, but have also chosen to buy new when the benefit outweighed the cost. Especially when I planned on keeping the vehicle a long time.

Good luck,
Stu

If it has the 6.0 I wouldn't buy it because of all the problems that engine has. We own two at work so I know them firsthand.
If it has the 6.4 I wouldn't buy it because that engine is known to get rather poor fuel mileage and also have a lot of problems. If you must have a Ford I would get a 7.3 or a 6.7.

Campfire Time wrote:

IdaD wrote:


I can buy a brand new Ram 2500 Hemi for $31-32k or a CTD model for $36-37k. Paying the extra up front and getting a brand new and better (imo) truck with a full warranty seems smarter than saving the money in return for 6 years and 80,000 miles of use.

Thank you! I love folks like you! You'll suck up the initial cost and I get a nicely maintained used vehicle that costs me half of what it cost you. and I'll still drive it 8 years! It's just getting broken in at 80k.

BTW, some of the best vehicles I've purchased had close to or over 100k. The truck in my sig had 85k on it when I bought it this past March. Of course I do most of my own work and I know what I'm looking at when I'm thinking about buying.

I get it with used cars, I'm just not seeing it with used trucks, especially diesel ones.

If you're comparing this Ford to a new Ram CTD, I'd be paying about $10k more. The difference on a used CTD or Duramax would be less because the Ford diesels tend not to hold value quite as well in the 6.0 and 6.4 years. So maybe figure an $8k to $10k price difference for 6 years and 80,000 miles. Admittedly I'm talking about a base Ram but that's really all I want options wise. If I buy that new Ram, at the end of that 6 years I've got a 6 year old truck with 80,000, and I know the history because it's my history (realistically less than 80,000 with my driving style, but for the sake of argument).

I guess to put it another way, I'd plan on keeping a new Cummins at least 12 years with the type of mileage I drive. Maybe more like 15 but lets just keep it at 12 so the numbers are even (my current daily driver is 14 years old right now). I doubt I'd keep the used Ford more than about 6 additional years. If that's the case, by buying new I'm paying about a third more up front for a truck that lasts me twice as long. And I'm eliminating some risk by getting a warranty for the first four or five or whatever years while I "get to know" my particular truck. Is that stupid of me?

IdaD wrote:


I can buy a brand new Ram 2500 Hemi for $31-32k or a CTD model for $36-37k. Paying the extra up front and getting a brand new and better (imo) truck with a full warranty seems smarter than saving the money in return for 6 years and 80,000 miles of use.

Thank you! I love folks like you! You'll suck up the initial cost and I get a nicely maintained used vehicle that costs me half of what it cost you. and I'll still drive it 8 years! It's just getting broken in at 80k.

BTW, some of the best vehicles I've purchased had close to or over 100k. The truck in my sig had 85k on it when I bought it this past March. Of course I do most of my own work and I know what I'm looking at when I'm thinking about buying.