Tight nuts

Hannibal wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

06Fargo wrote:
I like peanuts.

The Big Fight to remove rear wheels is a often overlooked side benefit of a dually.

Consult your local tire experts or the Tire & Rim association before putting anti-seize compounds on wheel mountings regarding getting correct torque values afterwards.

I've never had a problem with a Ram or a GM but the SD lug nuts have a locking devise in them that can be a major PITA. The problem with them is that there is enough play in the nut and locking washer that you loose all the torque the impact has to remove it. On a dually, you almost have to use a long anvil impact to be able to get to the lug nuts. If you use an extension you will loose torque . My 1/2" drive impact has 1200 ftlb of torque and there are times I have to break out the 5' strong arm to break some of our SD lug nuts loose.

Those aren't lock washers. They're flat washers that require a drop of motor oil between the nut and washer to prevent seizing. Works like a champ. I much prefer them over my previous Ram's lug nuts.
Do long bed crew cabs make less rear wheel torque than reg cab short beds due to the length of the drive shaft? I've never heard of the length of a shaft reducing torque.

Torque wouldn't be reduced due to the length of the shaft if using a breaker bar applying a constant force. It would merely rotate through a greater angle due to the longer shaft twisting (more than a shorter shaft) to the desired torque level, assuming the longer shaft doesn't twist apart.

The impact wrench does not apply a continuous force to "take up" the "twist" required for the longer shaft to transfer the desired torque level. In a sense the longer shaft is acting as a torque filter.

fj12ryder wrote:
Aluminum alloy lug nuts? I don't know what year the OP's truck is but my '01 Dodge dually has steel lug nuts and steel wheel studs. But I also have steel wheels.

Same for my 2006 RAM dually. IIRC mine get torqued to 150 lb-ft.

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That's too funny

transamz9 wrote:

06Fargo wrote:
I like peanuts.

The Big Fight to remove rear wheels is a often overlooked side benefit of a dually.

Consult your local tire experts or the Tire & Rim association before putting anti-seize compounds on wheel mountings regarding getting correct torque values afterwards.

I've never had a problem with a Ram or a GM but the SD lug nuts have a locking devise in them that can be a major PITA. The problem with them is that there is enough play in the nut and locking washer that you loose all the torque the impact has to remove it. On a dually, you almost have to use a long anvil impact to be able to get to the lug nuts. If you use an extension you will loose torque . My 1/2" drive impact has 1200 ftlb of torque and there are times I have to break out the 5' strong arm to break some of our SD lug nuts loose.

Those aren't lock washers. They're flat washers that require a drop of motor oil between the nut and washer to prevent seizing. Works like a champ. I much prefer them over my previous Ram's lug nuts.
Do long bed crew cabs make less rear wheel torque than reg cab short beds due to the length of the drive shaft? I've never heard of the length of a shaft reducing torque.

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I imagine very few will agree with me, and I avoided saying earlier, but I would rather have the wheel nuts too loose, than too tight, on my own equipment. Same goes for oil filters and many other fasteners. The key is to double-check them soon and triple check them later.

I never use a torque wrench on my wheels, and rely on an experienced feel when tightening the nuts. I always use oil on them, both threads and face, and have rarely had to retighten them while double-checking, and never at a triple-check.

Most importantly, they come off with reasonable boondock effort if I do this, but I have had them obviously too tight when mounted by a shop. I have to admit that I tighten them only slightly tighter with, or without, a torque wrench if the vehicle is someone elses, but have never had one of these come loose.

I have had my oil filter drip once, after mounting, because I barely tighten them at all, assuming I personally must remove it next. They will not fall off, but can seep if not tight enough. I finger-mount too tight, immediately loosen, then gently retighten short of bottom, maybe an 8th turn after full contact. I do have various special tools to remove them. But, there is very little more irritating than an oil filter that must have a screwdriver driven through it, or the rim chiseled, to remove it. Momentarily, I'd like to choke the amateurs that cause that. ;)

Wes
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06Fargo wrote:
I like peanuts.

The Big Fight to remove rear wheels is a often overlooked side benefit of a dually.

Consult your local tire experts or the Tire & Rim association before putting anti-seize compounds on wheel mountings regarding getting correct torque values afterwards.

I've never had a problem with a Ram or a GM but the SD lug nuts have a locking devise in them that can be a major PITA. The problem with them is that there is enough play in the nut and locking washer that you loose all the torque the impact has to remove it. On a dually, you almost have to use a long anvil impact to be able to get to the lug nuts. If you use an extension you will loose torque . My 1/2" drive impact has 1200 ftlb of torque and there are times I have to break out the 5' strong arm to break some of our SD lug nuts loose.

I like peanuts.

The Big Fight to remove rear wheels is a often overlooked side benefit of a dually.

Consult your local tire experts or the Tire & Rim association before putting anti-seize compounds on wheel mountings regarding getting correct torque values afterwards.

Ah! Those hot boiled peanut stands! Hard to resist!

Hannibal wrote:

Old-Biscuit wrote:

Hannibal wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

pigbike wrote:


So for right now I am just soaking my nuts, hoping for good things to happen.

An activity I whole heartily recommend:B

On our last camping trip, I boiled mine so we could all enjoy 'em!:B

Where did you get green peanuts for boiling after Sept.?
Certainly you didn't use dried ones......that's just wrong :B

Sometimes you just have to improvise. They weren't too bad but the 5th wheel sure stunk.:o

That's what a campfire is for.....

Old-Biscuit wrote:

Hannibal wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

pigbike wrote:


So for right now I am just soaking my nuts, hoping for good things to happen.

An activity I whole heartily recommend:B

On our last camping trip, I boiled mine so we could all enjoy 'em!:B

Where did you get green peanuts for boiling after Sept.?
Certainly you didn't use dried ones......that's just wrong :B

Sometimes you just have to improvise. They weren't too bad but the 5th wheel sure stunk.:o