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Usnthedog
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Feb 22, 2018

Towing in the real world. gas or diesel

I've been down the gas road in 04 and the diesel in 09. Looking to buy again. I had a lighter trailer in 04 but my siverado 6+ liter gas would just scream in a head wind. 4000 rpm was common. Bigger trailer and a power stroke diesel. Just fine but diesels are a PIA and costly. OK, I've read posts where it works out in the end but I'm tired of the diesel and would like to go back to gas. Here's the set up. 12,000# fifth wheel, medium height. With the new techs and trannies will any of the big three pull this without blowing piston out the hood. Middle of Kansas so lots of wind and Colorado Mountains. Is there a gasser in a 3/4 ton out there that will pull it at 65-70 mph and not peak out in rpm? Real life not book, please.

Thanks for your input,

Jeff

86 Replies

  • The 6-speed transmissions, with lockout feature, in the later gas 3/4 tons have made the biggest difference. Add in a little more HP & TQ, and it is easy to find a sweet spot for most towing, without having a screaming rpm.

    Jerry
  • My next TV will be a Ram 3/4 tin with the 6.4 and proper gearing. I don’t want a diesel even if I had a heavy fifth wheel. Too many issues with all the new technology.
  • You are going to hate yourself for going backwards.
    FWIW, I have been researching this myself. My TT is about 10K# and I have finally come to the consideration that I would not be happy even with the new big gas engines.
    OTOH, As I have in the past, I will get more than what I paid new for the diesel when I trade it in over what it would be worth if it was a gasser.
  • You have one of the worst diesel engines put in a light duty truck as far as cost to keep going so you have a bad taste in your mouth. 2009 was not really a good year for any of them. I urge you to reconsider your train of thoughts.
  • You might look into the Ram 6.4 gasser. It is a medium duty truck gas engine with 370 hp and 429 foot pounds of torque. Realizing, of course, the new diesels are now over 900 foot pounds of torque. If you are looking for power against the wind or towing in the mountains that is your answer.
  • Quick answer, NO!
    The long answer is really complicated, topping is with, are you going to be happy with poor fuel economy and screaming enging climbing even the slightest of grades?
    Diesels will almost always have greater pulling power and return better fuel economy while doing it. Maintenance? Diesels, yes, use more oil per oil change and the oil filter might cost you a couple dollars more. Other than routine service my Cummins has not cost me one cent in repairs going on 11 years. So IMHO the diesels cost more story is someones fabrication who knew some who knew someone that had a Ford 6.0L diesel once. And have no real basis in truth for modern diesels. Any modern automobile or truck is going to cost you a bundle if work is needed. Dont believe me, just lift the hood or look under a modern vehicle. To do almost anything on modern vehicles will likely require pulling the motor. That is IF you can actually find a real mechanic that knows how to.