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Looking at kicking it up a notch to a Host Mammoth 3x slide.

Underneath will set a F XXX dually. Looking at the many charts available from Ford I often find the F 450 at less payload then the F 350. That said I am also looking at the F 550 but due to size of the truck, not sure it's a viable option.

Truck will be 2020 model.

My AF 1150 tipping the scales at 5600 in travel trim has worked with the F 350 platform with no issues. But the Mammoth and truck will be last stop in the travel/truck/TC road of life. Sure that sometime in the future near or far this quite old man will slow and be happy to sit on a front porch...

I am listening, let me hear any and all build outs, options, etc, open discussion I am not set on anything other than the Mammoth 3x

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Underneath will set a F XXX dually. Looking at the many charts available from Ford I often find the F 450 at less payload then the F 350. That said I am also looking at the F 550 but due to size of the truck, not sure it's a viable option.

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17oaks wrote:

Payload

F-350 DRW 4x4 14,000\t6,550 Crew Cab

F-450 DRW 4x414,000\t5,310 Crew Cab



Not from the link I sent for Chassis. The last few columns are the Crew Cab models.

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17oaks wrote:

Payload

F-350 DRW 4x4 14,000\t6,550 Crew Cab

F-450 DRW 4x414,000\t5,310 Crew Cab



Not from the link I sent for Chassis. The last few columns are the Crew Cab models.

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NRALIFR wrote:
The decision to cap the Superduty pickups GVWR at 14K was made for marketing reasons, not because the components couldn’t handle more. IMHO, the F450 pickup has more real payload capacity available than the F350’s. In other words, it’s not as close to the boundaries of its “envelope”.

I also wish there was at least the option of a 4:10 axle ratio, but it’s not going to be screaming at highway speeds either. While I like to keep it around 65 on the interstates, there are times we need to scoot and it has no trouble maintaining the highest speed limits you’ll encounter in the US.

You might even come to enjoy being able to pass just about anything on a steep uphill grade. :B

:):)

IIRC my '15 had 4:10's and that truck would take you to 100 mph in the blink of an eye.

Sitting at a light with a Mustang to my left. I had to get into the left turn lane and there were a lot of cars behind the 'stang and me. The light goes green I nail it to get in the turn lane and I do. 'stang does to and pulls in behind me. I pull into the mall, and park the kids in the stang pulls in and says: WTH do you have under the hood of your truck. He could not beleive I had just beat him to the turn lane and the next light. Anyhow he left and was talking about trading in his stang on a truck. Young kid, stang sounded tuff, V8 I know that, but I don't know one stang from another after that.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-04-23T15:43:04.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-04-23T15:43:04.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":601},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3136678/message:3136701","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1484","rawBody":"
NRALIFR wrote:
The decision to cap the Superduty pickups GVWR at 14K was made for marketing reasons, not because the components couldn’t handle more. IMHO, the F450 pickup has more real payload capacity available than the F350’s. In other words, it’s not as close to the boundaries of its “envelope”.

I also wish there was at least the option of a 4:10 axle ratio, but it’s not going to be screaming at highway speeds either. While I like to keep it around 65 on the interstates, there are times we need to scoot and it has no trouble maintaining the highest speed limits you’ll encounter in the US.

You might even come to enjoy being able to pass just about anything on a steep uphill grade. :B

:):)

IIRC my '15 had 4:10's and that truck would take you to 100 mph in the blink of an eye.

Sitting at a light with a Mustang to my left. I had to get into the left turn lane and there were a lot of cars behind the 'stang and me. The light goes green I nail it to get in the turn lane and I do. 'stang does to and pulls in behind me. I pull into the mall, and park the kids in the stang pulls in and says: WTH do you have under the hood of your truck. He could not beleive I had just beat him to the turn lane and the next light. Anyhow he left and was talking about trading in his stang on a truck. Young kid, stang sounded tuff, V8 I know that, but I don't know one stang from another after that.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3136701_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:46207":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:46207","uid":46207,"login":"NRALIFR","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2005-11-26T23:11:36.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:46207"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3136700":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3136700","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3136700":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:46207"},"id":"message:3136700","revisionNum":1,"uid":3136700,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3136678"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3136678"},"subject":"Re: Truck build out for","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3136700"},"body":"The decision to cap the Superduty pickups GVWR at 14K was made for marketing reasons, not because the components couldn’t handle more. IMHO, the F450 pickup has more real payload capacity available than the F350’s. In other words, it’s not as close to the boundaries of its “envelope”.

I also wish there was at least the option of a 4:10 axle ratio, but it’s not going to be screaming at highway speeds either. While I like to keep it around 65 on the interstates, there are times we need to scoot and it has no trouble maintaining the highest speed limits you’ll encounter in the US.

You might even come to enjoy being able to pass just about anything on a steep uphill grade. :B

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I also wish there was at least the option of a 4:10 axle ratio, but it’s not going to be screaming at highway speeds either. While I like to keep it around 65 on the interstates, there are times we need to scoot and it has no trouble maintaining the highest speed limits you’ll encounter in the US.

You might even come to enjoy being able to pass just about anything on a steep uphill grade. :B

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Kayteg1 wrote:
Oh yeah, derated engines in heavier trucks.
When I rented F550 with 6l engine, I almost created accident since I got used to good torque with my 7.3l Powerstroke.
Derated 6l with auto transmission barely moved my trailer via intersection.
When I park overnight in the mountains, the truck would not pull up the driveway. I had to back up on flatter spot and gain some momentum to get out of hotel.

Yea I think the 550 is cool, but derated engine, I don't think so.

As for the 450, 4:30 gears are the ONLY combo available, WTH!!! How about 4:10 or even 3:73 or the long gone 3:90 IMO prob one of the best ratios ever for all around use.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-04-23T14:45:38.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-04-23T14:45:38.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":602},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3136678/message:3136699","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"715","rawBody":"
Kayteg1 wrote:
Oh yeah, derated engines in heavier trucks.
When I rented F550 with 6l engine, I almost created accident since I got used to good torque with my 7.3l Powerstroke.
Derated 6l with auto transmission barely moved my trailer via intersection.
When I park overnight in the mountains, the truck would not pull up the driveway. I had to back up on flatter spot and gain some momentum to get out of hotel.

Yea I think the 550 is cool, but derated engine, I don't think so.

As for the 450, 4:30 gears are the ONLY combo available, WTH!!! How about 4:10 or even 3:73 or the long gone 3:90 IMO prob one of the best ratios ever for all around use.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3136699_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3136698":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3136698","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3136698":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:317735"},"id":"message:3136698","revisionNum":1,"uid":3136698,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3136678"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3136678"},"subject":"Re: Truck build out for","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3136698"},"body":"
jimh425 wrote:
If you go strictly by that chart, all pickup style trucks are going to be be over GVWR while carrying a Mammoth. At that point, you should be looking at Chassis models. It’s clear if you look at those charts that the F450 has a higher capacity (about 2800) than the F350, but either has way more GVWR than the pickup versions. Care to guess why the F450 has a much higher rating in chassis form? :D

https://www.fleet.ford.com/fleet-specifications-vdm/?sg=commercial-trucks&category=chassis%20specifications&yr=2019&categoryId=specchassisspecifications&md=ChassisCab&brand=Ford


Payload

F-350 DRW 4x4 14,000\t6,550 Crew Cab

F-450 DRW 4x414,000\t5,310 Crew Cab

That said I am leaning towards the F 450 4x4 CC DR KR. BRAKES and Wheel/Tire. IMO the F 350 brakes are weak, very weak for its tow/haul rating...","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-04-23T14:41:36.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-04-23T14:41:36.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":379},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3136678/message:3136698","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1175","rawBody":"
jimh425 wrote:
If you go strictly by that chart, all pickup style trucks are going to be be over GVWR while carrying a Mammoth. At that point, you should be looking at Chassis models. It’s clear if you look at those charts that the F450 has a higher capacity (about 2800) than the F350, but either has way more GVWR than the pickup versions. Care to guess why the F450 has a much higher rating in chassis form? :D

https://www.fleet.ford.com/fleet-specifications-vdm/?sg=commercial-trucks&category=chassis%20specifications&yr=2019&categoryId=specchassisspecifications&md=ChassisCab&brand=Ford


Payload

F-350 DRW 4x4 14,000\t6,550 Crew Cab

F-450 DRW 4x414,000\t5,310 Crew Cab

That said I am leaning towards the F 450 4x4 CC DR KR. BRAKES and Wheel/Tire. 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It is slower off the line but the holds the speed well even with more weight and that is exactly what I expect in a diesel.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-04-23T13:43:58.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-04-23T13:43:58.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":314},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3136678/message:3136697","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"234","rawBody":"My derated chassis cab has as much horsepower as the 10 year old pickup it replaced yet still has more torque. It is slower off the line but the holds the speed well even with more weight and that is exactly what I expect in a diesel.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3136697_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:183041":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:183041","uid":183041,"login":"markowwes","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2007-02-28T13:33:45.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:183041"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3136696":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3136696","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3136696":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:183041"},"id":"message:3136696","revisionNum":1,"uid":3136696,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3136678"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3136678"},"subject":"Re: Truck build out for","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3136696"},"body":"
Kayteg1 wrote:
My F350 rides harsh empty as well, although much softer than older models.
Sulastic hangers soften that quite a bit.
Now I don't feel every street cover.
The problem I see with 450 and 550 class is that they don't offer low ratio differentials, when new engines are beasts.
With TC you'll be grinding drivetrain for nothing.


I have 4:88 in my 2018 F550, don't get much lower than that.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-04-23T13:41:02.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-04-23T13:41:02.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":313},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3136678/message:3136696","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"464","rawBody":"
Kayteg1 wrote:
My F350 rides harsh empty as well, although much softer than older models.
Sulastic hangers soften that quite a bit.
Now I don't feel every street cover.
The problem I see with 450 and 550 class is that they don't offer low ratio differentials, when new engines are beasts.
With TC you'll be grinding drivetrain for nothing.


I have 4:88 in my 2018 F550, don't get much lower than that.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3136696_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"Rank:rank:38":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:38","position":27,"name":"Nomad II","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:258803":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:258803","uid":258803,"login":"Reality_Check","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2007-08-29T21:54:22.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:38"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:258803"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3136695":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3136695","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3136695":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:258803"},"id":"message:3136695","revisionNum":1,"uid":3136695,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3136678"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3136678"},"subject":"Re: Truck build out for","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3136695"},"body":"
toddb wrote:
...... I debated the cab and chassis thing for awhile, we have 3 450s with 12' utility beds for work and the derated diesel is...well detrated, half it's spirit is removed.
Todd


And that there is a true story. It has never bothered me, as the longevity I get out of the trucks is worth it in exchange. But it is a big difference.

I'm ok being 60 seconds behind the other guys climbing a big hill... Considering the weight I have and tow, I'm still astonished by how much get-up-and-go the newer trucks have compared to the 7.3's and others. Something to consider though.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-04-23T07:04:30.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-04-23T07:04:30.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":313},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3136678/message:3136695","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"648","rawBody":"
toddb wrote:
...... I debated the cab and chassis thing for awhile, we have 3 450s with 12' utility beds for work and the derated diesel is...well detrated, half it's spirit is removed.
Todd


And that there is a true story. It has never bothered me, as the longevity I get out of the trucks is worth it in exchange. But it is a big difference.

I'm ok being 60 seconds behind the other guys climbing a big hill... Considering the weight I have and tow, I'm still astonished by how much get-up-and-go the newer trucks have compared to the 7.3's and others. Something to consider though.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3136695_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:183893":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:183893","uid":183893,"login":"Kayteg1","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-06-18T09:08:49.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:183893"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3136694":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3136694","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3136694":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:183893"},"id":"message:3136694","revisionNum":1,"uid":3136694,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3136678"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3136678"},"subject":"Re: Truck build out for","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3136694"},"body":"Oh yeah, derated engines in heavier trucks.
When I rented F550 with 6l engine, I almost created accident since I got used to good torque with my 7.3l Powerstroke.
Derated 6l with auto transmission barely moved my trailer via intersection.
When I park overnight in the mountains, the truck would not pull up the driveway. I had to back up on flatter spot and gain some momentum to get out of hotel.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-04-23T06:59:37.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-04-23T06:59:37.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":314},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3136678/message:3136694","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"415","rawBody":"Oh yeah, derated engines in heavier trucks.
When I rented F550 with 6l engine, I almost created accident since I got used to good torque with my 7.3l Powerstroke.
Derated 6l with auto transmission barely moved my trailer via intersection.
When I park overnight in the mountains, the truck would not pull up the driveway. I had to back up on flatter spot and gain some momentum to get out of hotel.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3136694_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:356664":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:356664","uid":356664,"login":"toddb","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2011-07-21T17:27:37.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:356664"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3136693":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3136693","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3136693":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:356664"},"id":"message:3136693","revisionNum":1,"uid":3136693,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3136678"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3136678"},"subject":"Re: Truck build out for","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3136693"},"body":"I stopped and checked out a '19 450, the rear spring packs look heavier than my '15 350. It also had a sway bar comparable to the big wig I had to install. I debated the cab and chassis thing for awhile, we have 3 450s with 12' utility beds for work and the derated diesel is...well detrated, half it's spirit is removed.
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