Truck salesmen are idiots

monkey44 wrote:

bigorange wrote:

JALLEN4 wrote:

Car/Truck dealerships are not amusement parks nor are they Disney Land rides. Millions were spent to build them and millions more to stock them. There is only one purpose for their existence and that is to make money. If the folks wandering through the inventory of unlocked vehicles are not constantly watched, a percentage of them will treat the vehicles as their own personal parts inventory which is very expensive for the dealer.

Salesmen are paid by commission which means don't sell...don't eat. They are not paid to wander silently along with you and if your absolutely not going to buy anything, you shouldn't be there wasting their time. At least 90% of trucks are purchased by people who know even less than the "idiot salesman" and the most important question they have is "Does it come in red?"

This is a very good point...in my experience if you're up-front that you're seriously just looking and not buying it often goes better. No need to waste their time and they won't waste yours trying to point you in the wrong direction to "buy something." Although sometimes hard to get a legitimate question answered once they know you're not in a buying mood.

Except, unlike a market where you can see what you're buying, AND the price is right there in front of you, and you can pick the brand (Green Giant, Del Mote, Kellog's, etc) AND see the price, you cannot do that on vehicle. SO, it REQUIRES us to wander in order to see what is offered, and how it's equipped - dealer inventory are all different options.

IF a dealer would put the price RIGHT THERE on the truck (the REAL price, not MSRP, and include DP and other BS markups), and let us look at it without jumping down our throat and pushing the sale, maybe a guy could decide on one and NOT waste the salesman's time.

An advertisement inviting us to "Come on down and shop" gives us the right to shop at our leisure. The minute a salesman walks up to us without us asking, he's on his own nickel.

Dealers will NOT put the 'real deal on the table' - so a dealer is chilling his own bath water in my book. A dealer ALWAYS hides the sale price, so we have no qualms about taking up the time to get the information we need to make our choice. Spending that kind of money, you can bet we'll take as much time as we need to choose a truck.

We just bought a 2015 Chevy 2500HD, and we talked to several salesman (GMC, Chevy, Ford) and drove several trucks before we decided. Several salesman would not even tell us the price unless we were sitting down ready to buy it (Dumb, sure, tell us the price AFTER we decide we want the truck - no thanks) ... they did not get our sale.

But the salesman that gave us his best price in an email when we asked, and stuck with it after we compared other trucks and brands, he sold us our new truck.

Old style sales strategy is heading out the door in vehicle sales now, because the potential for a buyer to know more is real and obvious. Any dealer or salesman that tries to hide information, or pricing will not fare well with more sophisticated buyers out there, and the amount of money it costs for a truck nowadays. People are much more cDel Monte..

DelMonte sells very few items for $30,000 plus. Their retailers also don't trade back in what you don't use and certainly don't service the item after the sale.

As soon as the retail customer starts paying MSRP for the vehicle, puts what they will take for the trade on the windshield, and hands the salesman a credit app when they arrive will be when you will know the real price of the vehicle without asking.