OK. I don't know how to call it but that's what they call it regarding tickets to concerts, etc. I have been browsing available F450s on Autotrader. I put in my parameters as only 2020 models and newer but I was willing to accept used trucks as part of my search.I'm not saying this is right or wrong. Just a bummer for someone legitimately looking for a new truck soon. But there are several F450s within 200 miles of me that have anywhere between 100 and 1000 miles. But they are going for as much $126,000. XL STX models listed at well over $90,000 and the Platinums in the upper $120,000s. Most of these are at Ford dealerships. I guess since they are able to list them as used, they can charge whatever they want. They call it "Market Price". Oh well. Looks like it'll be awhile for me to get that new truck.

If you're not in a rush for a truck simply order one.

Suppy and demand forces at work. Dealers were paying more than new vehicle prices to get trucks on their lots to sell. Now they have to sell for even more to make a profit. As mentioned above, the only way to get a reasonable deal cost-wise is to place an order and wait your turn in line.

Dealers have been doing this for years on high demand vehicles. I remember my sister paying and extra $5000 over retail for a new 2002 Thunderbird.

Why can’t sellers determine their sale price without being reasonable in your view? You disagree so they are “scalpers?”

Supply and demand. What the market will bear. I sold my 5er a year ago last May and started looking to downsize to an F150. Lack of inventory on lots led me to decide to order exactly what I wanted. First contact with local dealer he said there was a $10,000 premium over sticker. Told him no thanks. Few days later got an email saying $5,000 over sticker. No thanks. Then an email saying no premium. Then I was at least willing to talk. Ended up ordering for about $2,500 under sticker. Far higher than I was accustom to. But my F350 I was selling was valued for far more than it had been a year earlier. So I paid more than expected for his and got more than expected for mine.

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lawnspecialties
Explorer
Sep 18, 2022
I stopped by my closest Ford dealership yesterday. I've dealt with them on many things so we're somewhat familiar. They told me if I put in my F450 order in October the first day it's available to do so, I would probably see the truck late January / early February.

I was rather surprised and am still somewhat doubtful.
PButler96
Explorer
Sep 17, 2022
JRscooby wrote:
shadows4 wrote:
Just an FYI for people wanting to order a new truck. I had a co-worker that ordered a new F350 with the gas 7.3 on December 31 last year. He just got it last week. Wow!!!

Well it will take a while to get things up and running, but the party of Will block all legislation, even good legislation. The people will not get a win from this administration
was not able to block legislation to force the move of some chip manufacturing back to America, so things should improve.

Nothing better than the party of force. May the force be with you lol.

By the way, it's a grant / incentive program which does not force any chip manufacturer into anything as long as they do not accept the incentive. It's great when they handout the taxpayers money to corporations. At least get your facts straight. Those government incentive programs always work well.
JRscooby
Explorer II
Sep 16, 2022
shadows4 wrote:
Just an FYI for people wanting to order a new truck. I had a co-worker that ordered a new F350 with the gas 7.3 on December 31 last year. He just got it last week. Wow!!!

Well it will take a while to get things up and running, but the party of Will block all legislation, even good legislation. The people will not get a win from this administration
was not able to block legislation to force the move of some chip manufacturing back to America, so things should improve.
shadows4
Explorer III
Sep 16, 2022
Just an FYI for people wanting to order a new truck. I had a co-worker that ordered a new F350 with the gas 7.3 on December 31 last year. He just got it last week. Wow!!!
PButler96
Explorer
Sep 13, 2022
mkirsch wrote:
Everything SpeakEasy said, plus, those who moan that this will never end and that there is some collusion going on... C'mon. Get real. It's a dog eat dog market out there. There is not one manufacturer or dealer out there who would not step on any and all others to get a leg up. This is a fragile truce at best. As soon as supply normalizes, someone will blink. "Hey I can sell for less and beat the other guy out for market share." We will be back to the status quo faster than you can imagine.

Yes.
PButler96
Explorer
Sep 13, 2022
Steve76eb wrote:
PButler96 wrote:

Technically the dealer would just like to get his deposit which would constitute "ordering" from the dealer, just not the actual order being placed with Ford lol.

I doubt he could even take a deposit considering Ford doesn't even know what options they are going to be offering on the trucks yet for next year, let alone what the pricing is even going to be. The only one constant that we know for sure is that the price will be increasing.

A dealer not taking a deposit? Cmon man.
Steve76eb
Explorer
Sep 13, 2022
PButler96 wrote:

Technically the dealer would just like to get his deposit which would constitute "ordering" from the dealer, just not the actual order being placed with Ford lol.

I doubt he could even take a deposit considering Ford doesn't even know what options they are going to be offering on the trucks yet for next year, let alone what the pricing is even going to be. The only one constant that we know for sure is that the price will be increasing.
mkirsch
Nomad II
Sep 13, 2022
Everything SpeakEasy said, plus, those who moan that this will never end and that there is some collusion going on... C'mon. Get real. It's a dog eat dog market out there. There is not one manufacturer or dealer out there who would not step on any and all others to get a leg up. This is a fragile truce at best. As soon as supply normalizes, someone will blink. "Hey I can sell for less and beat the other guy out for market share." We will be back to the status quo faster than you can imagine.
SpeakEasy
Explorer
Sep 12, 2022
People really don't seem to understand the term "supply and demand." Simply put, when there are more buyers than there are of the thing they want to buy, prices rise.

Every seller, in a free market (which we supposedly have), naturally wants to sell for as high a price as possible. Every buyer, naturally, wants to buy for as low a price as possible. When these two natural forces are left to play out without interference, prices tend to stabilize. Think of an auction as a great illustration of a free market economy in action.

When the g'ment sent trillions of free dollars into the economy suddenly a lot of people were willing to pay more for things. Then, when the supply chain got disrupted (for a number of reasons), there were fewer goods on hand to sell. Both of these things combined to give us the crazy inflation we're stuck with now.

If any particular truck dealer were, in fact, scalping, everyone would shop at his competitor and he'd go out of business. When prices are high everywhere, it isn't scalping, and it isn't generally greed behind it.

-Speak
lawnspecialties
Explorer
Sep 11, 2022
As I stated, it was just a salesman in his golf cart. I took what he told me with a grain of salt.

I will go to the first dealership I spoke with. They are the ones I've always had service work done with. That sales manager should be able to sit down with me and we can discuss realistic choices.