OK. I don't know how to call it but that's what they call it regarding tickets to concerts, etc. I have been browsing available F450s on Autotrader. I put in my parameters as only 2020 models and newer but I was willing to accept used trucks as part of my search.I'm not saying this is right or wrong. Just a bummer for someone legitimately looking for a new truck soon. But there are several F450s within 200 miles of me that have anywhere between 100 and 1000 miles. But they are going for as much $126,000. XL STX models listed at well over $90,000 and the Platinums in the upper $120,000s. Most of these are at Ford dealerships. I guess since they are able to list them as used, they can charge whatever they want. They call it "Market Price". Oh well. Looks like it'll be awhile for me to get that new truck.

If you're not in a rush for a truck simply order one.

Suppy and demand forces at work. Dealers were paying more than new vehicle prices to get trucks on their lots to sell. Now they have to sell for even more to make a profit. As mentioned above, the only way to get a reasonable deal cost-wise is to place an order and wait your turn in line.

Dealers have been doing this for years on high demand vehicles. I remember my sister paying and extra $5000 over retail for a new 2002 Thunderbird.

Why can’t sellers determine their sale price without being reasonable in your view? You disagree so they are “scalpers?”

Supply and demand. What the market will bear. I sold my 5er a year ago last May and started looking to downsize to an F150. Lack of inventory on lots led me to decide to order exactly what I wanted. First contact with local dealer he said there was a $10,000 premium over sticker. Told him no thanks. Few days later got an email saying $5,000 over sticker. No thanks. Then an email saying no premium. Then I was at least willing to talk. Ended up ordering for about $2,500 under sticker. Far higher than I was accustom to. But my F350 I was selling was valued for far more than it had been a year earlier. So I paid more than expected for his and got more than expected for mine.

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FishOnOne
Nomad
Sep 05, 2022
If you're not in a rush for a truck simply order one.
Sport45
Explorer II
Sep 05, 2022
Suppy and demand forces at work. Dealers were paying more than new vehicle prices to get trucks on their lots to sell. Now they have to sell for even more to make a profit. As mentioned above, the only way to get a reasonable deal cost-wise is to place an order and wait your turn in line.
specta
Explorer
Sep 05, 2022
Dealers have been doing this for years on high demand vehicles.
I remember my sister paying and extra $5000 over retail for a new 2002 Thunderbird.
Lwiddis
Explorer II
Sep 06, 2022
Why can’t sellers determine their sale price without being reasonable in your view? You disagree so they are “scalpers?”
BB_TX
Nomad
Sep 06, 2022
Supply and demand. What the market will bear.

I sold my 5er a year ago last May and started looking to downsize to an F150. Lack of inventory on lots led me to decide to order exactly what I wanted. First contact with local dealer he said there was a $10,000 premium over sticker. Told him no thanks. Few days later got an email saying $5,000 over sticker. No thanks. Then an email saying no premium. Then I was at least willing to talk. Ended up ordering for about $2,500 under sticker. Far higher than I was accustom to. But my F350 I was selling was valued for far more than it had been a year earlier. So I paid more than expected for his and got more than expected for mine.
Horsedoc
Explorer II
Sep 06, 2022
My grandson got a call from the dealer he bought his 2500 Ram (bells and whistles) wanting to buy it back. He ended up sell the thing back to them for $12000 more than he gave for it. Made no sense at all until the other day I was at the same dealer and saw a list of a similar 2500 for well over $82000. Still makes no sense but they are selling the darn things
Dadoffourgirls
Explorer
Sep 06, 2022
I see this like the stock market. Buy low, sell high. Since OEMs cannot control dealers, they can either raise the price themselves, or let the market manage. My plan was to flip my 3500HD, but GM now requires me to only sell for a profit after 12 months of ownership. Was also planning on flipping my Bolt EUV. I see dealers adding a $5k market adjustment, and I had lease rebate and employee discount at MSRP.
Beaker
Explorer
Sep 06, 2022
Horse doc wrote:
Made no sense at all until the other day I was at the same dealer and saw a list of a similar 2500 for well over $82000. Still makes no sense but they are selling the darn things

My 2008 Duramax when new listed at $48000. That's 14 years ago. With inflation, $82000 with bells and whistles sounds quite reasonable.
Grit_dog
Navigator
Sep 06, 2022
Beaker wrote:
Horse doc wrote:
Made no sense at all until the other day I was at the same dealer and saw a list of a similar 2500 for well over $82000. Still makes no sense but they are selling the darn things

My 2008 Duramax when new listed at $48000. That's 14 years ago. With inflation, $82000 with bells and whistles sounds quite reasonable.

Reasonable? LOL.
Good thing Covid, 2 years of rampant inflation and historical supply issues haven't affected the price in your opinion!
Mmaxed
Explorer II
Sep 08, 2022
I see it as simple supply and demand. If someone will pay the price, so be it. Because of supply issues, dealers are selling less total units, so need to make more on the ones they do sell. That's why they are paying so much for used, to have something to sell. I have talked to 2 different fellows who were shopping, and found dealers with comparable used units priced more than new. The salesman told them that the new one would sell and then the used one would move.

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