mark5w wrote:
It's simple; neither, get a Ford.
DirtyOil wrote:
Once again another thread full of everyone's brand loyalties and biases.
LOL...do as I say not as I do....eh? Too funny!
Either is a capable truck, test drive each, look for comfort, steering and price. No sense in spending more then you have to for very similar trucks. Up here I couldn't see spending thousands more for a GM, seems Cdn govn taxes the hell lights GM. As they are both capable, I saved some hard earned cash and bought the Ram and loving it.
cwboyscooby wrote:
You opened a can of worms didn't you?
As a former mechanic who has spend time taking apart and reprogramming the computers and rebuilding the engines on these trucks,I will give you some insight from a different perspective....
Ford: used to make arguably the best diesel ever made, but have not make one comparable since the 7.3L was replaced by the 6.0L. The 6.0 was horrible, the 6.4 better, but still lacked, and the 6.7 again a step forward, but still not as reliable as it should be.
Dodge: The 5.9L was as durable and bulletproof as the 7.3L and is just a near perfect engine. The 6.7L was a pretty decent replacement, but is heavily hindered by the worthless emissions******that they were forced to add. If you remove the DPF and reprogram it accordingly, it becomes the most reliable and powerful diesel ever put into a non-commercial truck.
Chevy: By far the most comfortable ride of the big three. A very capable truck, but not as reliable as the Dodge or Ford. It's all in the tune. The Dodge has the potential to blow the Duramax off the road, but Dodge instead chose to offer a more reliable tune and not force the Cummins to have to work as hard as the Duramax does. The Allison Tranny.... Is not an Allison and falls quite short of what it should (and overheat often).... but still better than Dodge's continual failure to build a reliable high-torque-capable tranny.
I have always hated Chevy diesels, but they are slowly improving as others are slipping. 1995-2003, Ford Ruled with the 7.3L - 2003-2007, Dodge won hands down with the 5.9L. Since 2007 they are all on a more level playing field (partially thanks to EPA standards), but I would have to put Dodge on top for reliable high mileage towing, or Chevy if you want a more comfortable ride and will not be pulling as much weight for too many miles.
Just a last thought, consider a manual transmission for durability or high altitude pulling.
FishOnOne wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
"I would go for the most reliable and proven power in heavy duty towing situations. "
You don't get that from a test a Magazine does. You get that from real world experience.
The Duramax/Alison combo is good, rated at 250K but the Cummins is rated for 350K.
Think about it, all Cummins does is build engines. Less moving parts, you can see both sides of the engine, the in line 6 is the best for delivering torque.
I would pick either way before I would think about a Ford.
Take a new Ram Longhorn for a spin, that will open your eyes to what an improvement Ram has made in the last 3 years.
And it's years of frustration that will make someone respond like this. If the Cummins inline develops the best torque, why does it get its a$$ handed to itself during any pull off comparison. :R
Nobody is buying this nonsense anymore! :W
4x4ord wrote:DodgeVoltage wrote:
It's not exactly the comparison you are asking, but might give you an idea- my 2010 Ram 3500 dually, 4x4, megacab gets the same mileage as my 2009 GMC 2500 SRW, crew cab, Duramax, 4x4. Both consistanly get 14.5 mpg. Occasionally, my Ram will do better by a mpg, but usually pretty close. Those numbers are empty, not towing.
I think there must be something wrong with your Chevy. I Don't think I could get either my 03 or 2010 Duramaxs to burn that much fuel non towing nor have I heard of another Duramax incapable of at least 18 mpg running empty.
