Ultimate payload monster?

JRscooby wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"Trucks have outgrown these classifications and limitations yet the manufacturers ratings are restricted by them regardless if the trucks can actually carry more weight."

EXACTLY!!!

Or have the manufactures decided to badge their trucks lower than what they should so they make the ads look better? And with the weight of all the comforts pickups did not have when most where used to work, need the extra GVWR to haul the same amount?
All the F350s I had GVWR was 10,000. But both Fords that had "superduty" badge had 850 in VIN.

We de-rate GVWR's in the medium/heavy-duty industry I have worked in for decades all the time. Many of our customers will de-rate their trucks GVWR to keep from having to pay added taxes and registration. For example, I had a mining customer that mainly hauled heavy in the mines, not on the roads. While he needed capability off road, he did not need it on road when transferring the truck between mines. So bought a class 8 truck and de-rated it to a lower GVWR to save money. It is completely legit and happens a lot. Another example is many oil field trucks that are speced out with heavier duty axles to handle the abuse of lease roads, but have a de-rated GVWR since they don't tow enough to warrant the higher GVWR on road.

Same goes for many of our medium duty fleets at our nine Ford dealerships. There are certain rules that trucks over 10k GVWR have to follow that trucks under 10k don't due to how the laws were written and how outdated they are versus the capabilities of todays trucks. Many of those who wrote these laws didn't foresee trucks being as capable as they are today and there has been no effort to change these laws by the states because it is a revenue stream.

Take the 26k combined GVWR law and needing a CDL. If a fleet is towing with an F350 with a GVWR of 11.5k and the trailers GVWR is over 14.5k (11.5 + 14.5 = 26k) then the commercial driver needs a certain CDL in most states and added regulations are placed upon the driver as well. Even if he is only towing 10k in this instance, the trailer's GVWR and the truck's GVWR puts him at 26k. However, if you de-rated the F350 (which Ford has an option for) to 10k or used a 2500 with a GVWR of 10k, then no CDL or added regulations is needed due to these same laws not applying to 10k and under trucks.

This is why I said in my earlier post that it would be suicide for a truck manufacturer to stop offering trucks under 10k GVWR because fleets would stop buying them. The only one's who really bicker about these weights and think the 10k is actually limit of a 2500 are recreational towers, not fleets who do it professionally.