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6door74
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Aug 30, 2017

Want to start off on the right foot

Hello all,

My wife and i are starting to work our way into the "RV" lifestyle. It will only be part time but I intend to get out as much as possible. Even if only for the weekend a short distance away.

I originally wanted to buy a travel trailer I could tow with my ford flex. Needless to say, after seeing that size trailer in person (and at the persuasion of the salesperson) we decided bigger would be better. We're a family of 5 but 2 of our kids are now "adults" in college. I don't know how much time we'll still get with them on vacations, but we still want something that sleeps approx 10 people. We intend on our trailer being a family trailer to include nieces and nephews.

With that said, we kept going bigger and bigger and now I'm looking at travel trailers that are about 30' at least. Considering that we'll have extended family in the trailer, we decided to go with a van. That way we can all most likely ride in 1 vehicle. We purchased a 2006 ford e350 with the V10 and 4.10 gears. From everything I've read, it's a beast for towing and a bigger beast at the gas pumps. It has 55k miles and will be solely a tow vehicle and on the rare occasion, if he need that much space to transport people. I have the factory towing package and from what I've read, my towing max is 10,000 with the correct hitch. We don't have a trailer yet as we wanted to have a tow vehicle 1st so we could know our capabilities.

Ideally, we'll be buying a trailer early next year. In the meantime, i want to get the van ready along with any and all accessories/components we need. That way I can manage costs better and make sure we have everything. With that said,I have a few questions...


1. What should I do to the van in the meantime mechanically? New fluids? Change spark plugs or other routine maintenance items? Items I should have a mechanic check for and repair/replace as needed?Suggestions appreciated.

2. Suggestions on a weight distribution hitch. (That doesn't meant i change the factory ford hitch does it?) I know there will be many opinions on this but I'm open to hearing them. Especially if someone has 1st hand knowledge of it being used with the e350.

3. I like my cars "customized" but I can't go too crazy with this one as far as wheels go. Can anyone suggest some nice shiny wheels that will still be good for the towing task?

4. Any performance/efficiency mods I should do to the van? To gain power or be more fuel efficient?

5. And just confirm something as I look for our trailer. If the gvwr weight of the trailer is 9500lbs, then that's the number that means I'm good at because it's less than 10,000? I know there's some minor things that can change that but i don't anticipate maxing out the load capacity of the van. So if that's the case, then I'm good, right?


Sorry for the long introduction post but any help will be appreciated. I look forward to soon being able to post a picture of my rig. Until then, I'll just keep browsing and soaking up all the info I can.
  • Since the E350 and F350 share many of the same components, I wouldn't be surprised if the GVWR of your van is 10,000 lbs.

    Best thing to do is weigh the van empty and subtract that weight from the GVWR. That gives you a true weight capacity.
  • wanderingaimlessly wrote:
    Your van should have plenty of tow capacity, but I would look into carry capacity. Trying to load the entire group, upwards of 10 people in the van, and then hitching a trailer that weighs in around 8000 lbs, with a tongue weight of 1200 or so, and the hitch and personal items also loaded in the van, that may be the number you run into trouble with. You may end up having to have a second vehicle along to get the whole crew out there.
    You have a lot of capability, but your also looking to ask a lot, so just check the paperwork or at least the door stickers.



    Having 10 people wouldn't be the norm. We just wanted to have the space in case we did have them ride with us and a trailer to accomadate them even if,they didn't ride with us. With that said, we wouldn't ride anywhere with full tanks if we had a full load of people. GVWR of the van is 8700 and combined is 18,500

    Thanks
  • 6door,

    A couple of things that you must factor in:

    What is GVWR of the van - as written on the sticker on the door? You need to make sure you won't be exceeding that weight. Let's say it's 8,000 lbs. if you have 6 people, and each weighs 150 lbs, that's 900 lbs of weight. And let's say the van weighs 6,000 lbs. You're now at 6,900 lbs. Now say your trailer weighs 8,000 lbs; 10% tongue weight is 800 lbs. so now you're up to 7,700 lbs. You now only have 300 lbs left to play with in the van. Bringing an ice chest and food in the van? Bringing any tools in the van? Cats, dogs, or other things? It all adds up quickly.

    Notice I didn't say anything about towing capacity.

    Walk through those scenarios and see where the numbers come out at.
  • 6door74 wrote:
    Hello all,
    ...snip...we still want something that sleeps approx 10 people.

    Welcome to the Forum...you are certainly doing the wise thing by researching before you buy - especially tow vehicle capabilities...

    Something caught my eye in your post: "sleep 10 people."
    This will be a big challenge. I think you will have a hard time finding campgrounds that allow more than 8 people per site. Also 10 people and 1 trailer ....well maybe some of the young ones will have to sleep in a tent.

    Don't give up. Camping -RV'ing is a fantastic family activity.
  • 6door74 wrote:
    ....We purchased a 2006 ford e350 with the V10 and 4.10 gears. ...55k miles....factory towing package....towing max is 10,000 with the correct hitch..

    1. What should I do to the van in the meantime mechanically? New fluids? Change spark plugs or other routine maintenance items? Items I should have a mechanic check for and repair/replace as needed?

    Simple stuff is really all you need to do right now if there are no check engine lights or outstanding problems
    --new transmission filter and fluid. DO NOT do a 'power flush'. Just drop the tranny pan, replace the filter, and refill to the correct fluid level.
    --Have the brake lines flushed. That is a service 90% of people don't ever think about. Brake fluid collects moisture and contaminants over time and becomes less efficient. Doing a complete flush pushes out the old fluid, bleeds the system, and refills with new.
    --I think those are supposed to be 100,000 mile spark plugs so changing those probably aren't necessary
    --Fuel filter. If this vehicle has an in-line fuel filter you should change that.
    6door74 wrote:
    2. Suggestions on a weight distribution hitch. (That doesn't meant i change the factory ford hitch does it?).

    I used a Reese Dual Cam WD hitch for 11 years and it worked like a charm. I would suggest that hitch or one similar with 'built-in' sway control. Equal-Izer is another really good one. Your OEM receiver will work just fine with any of them.

    6door74 wrote:
    3. I like my cars "customized" but I can't go too crazy with this one as far as wheels go. Can anyone suggest some nice shiny wheels that will still be good for the towing task?

    Do you have the same bolt pattern as the F250/F350 trucks? If so, maybe you can get some nice looking OEM wheels from a salvage yard?

    6door74 wrote:
    4. Any performance/efficiency mods I should do to the van? To gain power or be more fuel efficient?

    That's a good tow vehicle. With 4.10 gears and the V10 there isn't much to do for enhanced towing performance. Fuel economy? Keep your foot lightly on the go pedal. I wouldn't bother with programmers or any other stuff like that.

    6door74 wrote:
    5. And just confirm something as I look for our trailer. If the gvwr weight of the trailer is 9500lbs, then that's the number that means I'm good at because it's less than 10,000?

    Also watch the GVWR of the van. You can exceed that value with trailers less than 10Klbs.

    Does the van already have a trailer brake controller? If not, you'll need to install an aftermarket unit. The Tekonsha Prodigy P2 and Prodigy P3 are both very good controllers. I used a P2 for 11 years with my old truck and it provided smooth, consistent trailer braking with no issues at all.

    KJ
  • Your van should have plenty of tow capacity, but I would look into carry capacity. Trying to load the entire group, upwards of 10 people in the van, and then hitching a trailer that weighs in around 8000 lbs, with a tongue weight of 1200 or so, and the hitch and personal items also loaded in the van, that may be the number you run into trouble with. You may end up having to have a second vehicle along to get the whole crew out there.
    You have a lot of capability, but your also looking to ask a lot, so just check the paperwork or at least the door stickers.
  • The towing weight will be your issue do research on this board it isn't just the weight the van can pull,your probably looking at a trailer that's about 8,000 pounds