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monkey44
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Feb 15, 2014

Weight police will LOVE this one ...

Was looking at 2500HD GMC see a recent 'factory price increase' of a few grand -- which bumps the truck price a bunch.

So, decided to compare Ford - never owned a Ford, always been GMC guy. SO, I email the Ford dealer and ask, "What are the payload for the F-150 vs the F-250?"

The answer made me laugh out loud *** Guess we don't need a F-250 anymore, that F-150 is suddenly a real powerhouse ...


Here's the response - word for word quote:

Dear Bill,

The maximum payload capacity of the F-150 is 3120lbs. The payload capacity of the F-250 is 7260lbs.
  • That's why it's tough to order a truck nowadays -- so many options impact other things ... Like you said, tick the wrong box and you get a payload that only carries groceries ...

    I'm going through the GM site, and comparing with the Ford site, see how different it is ... but it's almost you can't compare because of exactly that - you ask for a seat change - and the seat is $625, but it "requires" an interior package that costs $2865 ... So, it's like the $650 hammer the feds buy - the hammer cost $20 bucks, but the package cost $630 ...

    We all know it's because of build efficiency at the factory - add any one tiny change to each truck would cost a fortune ... BUT sometimes it makes NO sense to put some things together in a package that are unrelated to it.

    To buy a seat, you need to upgrade the stereo and some other trim ??? What does a stereo have to do with where you sit ... some of the adds make no sense.

    And, as mentioned, some reduce payload ... that's not always a good thing.
  • When we factory ordered our truck, it was eye opening to sit with the fleet rep and literally build the truck line-by-line and see how each option impacted the payload. The payload number was at the top of the screen, so as we configured the truck, we watched that number like a hawk.

    Where it can get tricky is certain options restrict other options. Although I don't remember all the examples, I recall if you selected the snow plow package, you could not order the camper package (not that we would ever need a snow plow in the Arizona desert!)

    Seeing the complexity of nailing down the final payload number, it was easy to see how quoting a number must be difficult.
  • trnfla wrote:
    Ford 2014 F-150 Payload Guide so the salemans was correct, you can get a 3120 payload F-150

    Looks like he was mistaken about the F-250 Super Duty Payload Guide F-350 can handle the 7260lbs.


    Shows that you certainly need to be careful which options you tick - would be easy for someone not familiar with truck weight ratings to hear the salesman say 3120#, then tick all the options they want and worst-case end up with 980# :S

    It is encouraging to see though that even with the long bed, 4x4 and crew cab you can still get a healthy payload as long as you select the heavy duty payload package. I'm really pleased to see them taking payload seriously and allowing you to specify a truck from the get go which can carry a reasonable load.

    It would be interesting to drive the 5.0L and 3.5L turbo to compare them. That ecoboost engine has almost as much torque as the 6.2L but you get it 2000 RPM lower.

    Steve.
  • Well I would never consider a F-150 (or any heavy half ton for that matter) if I was ever going to haul any traditional camper IMO. My brother in law bought a new 150 in 06, long box, ext cab with the heavy GVW (what ever it was at the time). At about 35k the trans case started to slip & had metal in the oil when he took it in to the local Ford dealer (they noticed the filings in the oil)
    He had just purchased my Late Mom's 8ft S&S camper & made one trip with it (fishing in BC). So it was still on the truck when he took it in to have the TC looked at, they wouldn't honor his warranty because they said he had exceeded the load capacity of the truck. (right with a 8ft plain jane camper!) We ended up weighing everything & was well within the GVW rating. They still wouldn't fix it, they said to unload it & take it to another dealer, because they had already seen it with the TC on. He ended up trading it for a 012 F-350, I would have fought them myself, anyway this is what happened to him.
    I would buy the heavy F-250 etc to get the heavier drive train components IMHO
  • Right - but I asked about the Supercab 4x4 SB, not a regular cab 4x2 LB ... that's a huge difference in payload.

    And, I can't even imagine pulling a 3150 lbs load up a hill with a V-6 ... it's just mind boggling. Must be some wild technology.
  • Remember you have to look at the HD option on the F150 to get that payload

    ( 7 lug wheels )

    With the EB you are correct a true towing beast
  • Best-in-Class maximum conventional towing of 18,500 lbs. (8,391 kg), max. 24,700 lbs. (11,204 kg) 5th-wheel towing123 and 7,260 lbs. (3,293 kg) max. payload124. These are big numbers that'll impact your bottom line for the better when the workday is done.

    Payload for 2014 super duty.