Well, today it happened!! ~Updated~

Tom/Barb wrote:
You got my curiosity up, So I went and looked.
NEW TRUCK

By the time you add sales tax, license, (in Smohomish County). dealer prep. extend warrantee, you are pushing 70k out the door.

only to blow up in under 10k miles.

Sales tax would be $5411.

I think the discussion was COST of truck not all the BS associated with purchase since some places like Oregon have no sales tax.

Tom/Barb wrote:

Passin Thru wrote:
Buy a $70000 pickup and you pay 5 X for parts for the stupid things and they are less reliable now than before. The Mfgs don't care either. Now a normal mechanic can't work on one.

I'd take This Truck any day over the newer ones of any make.

The 4 speed auto and 2wd wouldn’t cut it for me. I was very, very close to buying a 2007 Ram 3500 with a 5.9L and then I drove the truck in my signature. Let’s just say there is a BIG difference between the 3rd and 4th gen Rams........;)

And I’m not too worried about reliability. :B

Passin Thru wrote:
Buy a $70000 pickup and you pay 5 X for parts for the stupid things and they are less reliable now than before. The Mfgs don't care either. Now a normal mechanic can't work on one.

I'd take This Truck any day over the newer ones of any make.

My 2012 Ford 6.7 diesel has been perfect after 83K mi. except for one free recall fix and one buzz noise fixed free under warranty. People with good trucks never post, do they. Amazing how many Ford haters one can round up with one post. OP should absolutely get a fuel sample and go back on the last station if there is a problem, and comprehensive insurance if not. Yes, this is very annoying and inconvenient--hope OP gets a fix with minimal hassle.

Guys in my area brand new diesel 4x4 with 4 door trucks are at that 70K mark if not higher.... Even used is stupid high. If you can get that truck much cheaper that's awesome! It seems like every new diesel out there is way is regarded as gold around here in Florida. But I'm like most of you, I would go for a cheaper optioned tradesman type for less if I wanted to. Hence one more big reason I go with a gas engine. Hey I love diesels to, but for the potential breakdown and initial cost up front with the new emissions, no way I don't want it. I just don't want the headaches...OP I hope this works out for you, it's a frustrating road for sure but stick to your word on this and I hope they stand by there's. keep us updated...thanks

Cummins12V98 wrote:

~DJ~ wrote:
Driving down the freeway got the message for low fuel pressure. Few seconds later in to limp mode. Barely got off the freeway safely. AAA towed my truck to the Dealer. My HPFP grenaded at 9300 miles!! Took the injectors with it along with a myriad of other junk. And I do mean JUNK. 2016 Suer Duty with 9300 miles!!! Run nothing but Chevron diesel from a high volume station.

I'm done!! Back to gas!! Don't care if I only climb the mtns at 45 MPH!!! :M:M:M

Really sucks!!!THAT is the BIGGEST reason to not own a Ford Diesel. I really hope they don't try to F you over as they have some in the past.

I highly suggest checking out a GM or RAM as neither have that problematic injection pump. GM recently dumped their same pump and went Denso after getting sick of warranty claims.

RAM has not had any issues with their current Bosch pump.

I would also consider a Ford Gasser if in the market but towing is for Diesels!!!

You are usually the first to complain when Fish jumps on a Ram thread, and here you are on a Ford thread.

You got my curiosity up, So I went and looked.
NEW TRUCK

By the time you add sales tax, license, (in Smohomish County). dealer prep. extend warrantee, you are pushing 70k out the door.

only to blow up in under 10k miles.

Sales tax would be $5411.

IdaD wrote:
Why does everybody think diesel trucks all cost $70k? Is it ignorance or an attempt to make oneself feel better about a choice not to purchase one?

No,, it's just easier than doing your home work.

kirkl wrote:

IdaD wrote:
Why does everybody think diesel trucks all cost $70k? Is it ignorance or an attempt to make oneself feel better about a choice not to purchase one?

Man no kidding, you can easily spend that much on a truck but if you dont ned all the foofoo stuff then your not spending that much. I just spent $43k on a brand new 2017 Cummins diesel tradesman 4x4 longbed with everything i need on it.

Mine was $39k and change before tax/etc but prices have gone up by about that much since I bought in spring 2015. I would bet our trucks are similarly optioned albeit mine is a short bed. In most cases the total cost of ownership difference between gas or diesel is a wash - the "price premium" for an HD diesel is a bogus myth.

DanNJanice wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Greene728 wrote:

ib516 wrote:
That sucks. Hope they get you fixed up fast. Just be glad you have warranty. Can you imagine what that will cost the next guy to own that truck when/if it happens again? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

If history repeats itself then warranty may not matter as Ford will claim contaminated fuel. I sure hope not, not with those miles. OP, I sincerely hope the dealer and Ford take care of you. Best of luck!

What REALLY sucks is if they deny then it's a claim against your auto policy!

I have never heard of auto insurance policies that cover breakdown/repairs. I have heard of auto policies that cover accidents, wrecks, trees falling, etc. But never one that covers mechanical failures. I assume they cost a LOT more than standard full coverage.

Comprehensive Coverage will cover fuel quality related damage - as long as you can prove where the fuel came from. Typically your insurance will then try to recover their expense from the fuel source.


The OP's problem has not been clearly identified as a fuel quality related issue or non-fuel related mechanical failure.

Hoping the OP has a honest dealer as Ford has been stingy on these type of warranty claim. OP needs to independently have the fuel tested for contamination.....

OEM fuel filter systems on newer trucks leave a little to desire -especially in conjunction with the known vulnerabilities of the CP4 series injector pumps. Most of the OEMS have decent coalescing filters but the absolute micron ratings are not fine enough at a high percentage.