What do you tow with your 2011+ F150 HD 8200 GVWR?

I have a 14 f150 HD and tow a 31 foot travel trailer. I don't know the weights of trailer but when I tow I carry a FULL load of firewood and it tows fantastic!!! Love my HD.

BenK wrote:

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brulaz is an example of most who doesn't get
that there is a 6K RGAWR 'half ton'...
...

No.

All I'm saying is that the current crop of F150s with HD Payload option from at least 2011 have a rGAWR of 4800#.

Not 6K.

Not sure where you are getting your info. Perhaps older trucks? or a different manufacturer?

brulaz wrote:
snip....


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??? Don't know of any F150 with a 6K rGAWR ???

4800# is what you get with the F150's HD Payload option.

A 'half ton' with a +8K GVWR will have a RGAWR in the +6K range. I call
these 'fake half tons' and are for folks who insist on only owning a
'half ton', even though the 'need' a bigger TV. These 'fake half ton'
comes with the higher rated diff and 'LT' class tires

Why just saying 'half ton' has a huge potential of not talking about
the same TV

To the OP, yes saw your title, but betcha many of the posters
didn't and/or don't get that point...that there are 'half ton' and then
there are 'half ton'...brulaz is an example of most who doesn't get
that there is a 6K RGAWR 'half ton'...

Why always say to ignore the marketing badging (F150, 1500, half ton, etc)
and just use their GVWR's

I've had a few PM's from folks who took advice on this forum saying
'sure you can'...'I have been doing so with my half ton with no issues'...

One guy wanted to sue because of that advice. He burned up his diff
on the way to a long vacation. Got stuck in the middle of no where and
spent their vacation money paying for the rebuilding of their F150
diff and had to go back home. Lost their deposits too

The advisor has a 'HD' or +8K GVWR 'half ton' with a +6K RGAWR. That
guy who had his vacation ruined (did I say his wife was made as a wet
hen at him) by that misleading advice. That guy had a 'half ton' with
a +4K RGAWR. About 2K less rating than the advisor

BenK wrote:

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The +6K GVWR normally has a +4K RGAWR and the +8K GVWR normally has a +6K RGAWR

A world of difference in that 2,000 pound rear axle rating differential

So the ones close to 4,000 on their rear axle is near or over their
rear axle ratings...while the folks with the +6K RGAWR still has
2,000 pounds of margin

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??? Don't know of any F150 with a 6K rGAWR ???

4800# is what you get with the F150's HD Payload option.

Just wanted to add that the 2015 HD payload trucks will be quite different from the 2011-2014 HD Payloads that the OP is talking about.

With the 5L V8 or 3.5L EcoB, they keep the 4800# rGAWR, but now have six lug wheels; but they are special wheels that only come with the HD Option. According to the catalog, the 18" alloy wheels can carry more than the 17" steel wheels.

Because the 2015s with HD payload have the same rGAWR as before, but lower curb weight with the Al body, there should be more weight carrying ability on the rear axle. And the payloads are also higher than before.

To confuse matters further, the 2.7L EcoB has its own Payload option package that also boosts its payload, but not to the extent of the HD Payload package.

BenK wrote:
Note that some of your info is out of context

There are about 14-15 or more 'half ton' pickups

Ranging from +6K GVWR to +8K GVWR (the OP's)...

No intent of causing confusion re: capabilities of '1/2 ton' trucks. Per the title of the post this was for 2011+ F150s with the 8200 GVWR. I will go back and edit my summary post to re-interate this. The HD 150 trucks start with around 2200 lbs of payload (crew cab with options) and go up from there. They have a RAWR of 4850 and GCVWR of 17100.

Thanks,
Stu

Note that some of your info is out of context

There are about 14-15 or more 'half ton' pickups

Ranging from +6K GVWR to +8K GVWR (the OP's)

The +6K GVWR normally has a +4K RGAWR and the +8K GVWR normally has a +6K RGAWR

A world of difference in that 2,000 pound rear axle rating differential

So the ones close to 4,000 on their rear axle is near or over their
rear axle ratings...while the folks with the +6K RGAWR still has
2,000 pounds of margin

Appreciate the feedback. To reiterate what was being asked is what folks are towing with the HD / Max Payload option which includes Max Tow. This configuration has the GVWR of 8200 and a heavier rear axle with RAWR of 4850. Payloads are around 2200 for a crew cab with options and increase when there are fewer options or with an extended cab configuration. This package also includes LT tires.

Of the respondents two had the Max Tow (no Max Payload) and are likely exceeding RAWR, however would be within spec with the HD / Max Payload package.

This summarizes what folks were towing:

TTs
Axle Weight - Tongue Weight (2012 receiver rated at 1150)
8000 - 1050
7750 - 1100
7600 - 1045
6700 - Not listed
4500 - Not listed (This was a GVWR, not loaded axle weight)

5th Wheels
Axle Weight - Pin Weight
9500 - 1700
9000 - Not listed
7440 - 1460
7460 - 1190 (These were dry weights)

We have a 13' Eco HD pulling a 26sab. Truck loaded weighs 6680#. 5er's loaded weights are.... pin 1460 & axle is 7440. Truck has no added suspension help & pulls the 5er extremely well. Gas mileage averages between 10.8 & 11.2. We average between 4500 & 6000 miles towing each year. Use to pull a 31' TT loaded TW of 1045#'s & axle weight of 7600#'s. Also pulled it really well.

Like SkiSmuggs I have the Max Tow with ~1800# payload. My campers' dry pin weight is 1190 and I am just under max payload with the camper and us fully loaded for our weekend warrior trips. Haven't weighted it lately buy with my E rated tires the only weak point is the actual rearend and I haven't heard too many of those failing just driving down the road. With over 10,000 miles of towing our camper we haven't had one problem. Now I have E rated tires on the camper too!