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Feb 16, 2016

Why do you still call it a "half ton"?

We have all heard and used the terms "half ton", "three-quarter ton", or "one ton" before. In fact these terms are tossed around here on a daily basis without even thinking about. But why?

Most people know that the term "half ton" does not literally apply to what you would call "half ton" anymore and hasn't for almost half a century. Back when these terms actually applied to the payload rating of pickup trucks; a "half ton" only had a payload of half a ton, a "three quarter ton" only had a payload of three quarters of a ton, and so on. This isn't the case anymore since most of these pick up trucks nowadays have a payload of almost double that of these "half ton" or "one ton" terms.

What gets even more complex is what to you designates it as a "half ton" and such? Is it the numbers on the side of the door? If that is the case then the Tundra and Titan do do not have numbers on the side of their doors yet they are commonly refereed to as "half tons". If the argument is made after that in saying that the Titan and Tundra are "half tons" because of their GVWR puts them in the same class as other "half tons" then why do we call all pre-2004 single rear wheel 350/3500's as a "one ton" when their GVWR was under 10,000 lbs which means it is a "three quarter ton" going by the same GVWR rules. Then there is the pick-version of the F450 that had it's GVWR lowered to so Ford can move it into the same class 3 as the F350 of other 3500 trucks which is what most would refer to as a "one ton".

There is also the fact that the manufacturers themselves do not by law have to designate their GVWR class 2A truck as 150/1500, or their class 2B trucks as 250/2500, and so on. Truth be told, the manufacturer can name or number their different models anything they want by DOT standards. It is perfectly legal for a manufacturer to re-badge or re-name their 3500 trucks as a 1500 starting tomorrow as long they gave it a proper GVWR for it's class. Hence the number on the side of the door is nothing more than just a number that the manufacturer decides to give it.

In fact it is only us, the consumer, that have these odd stipulations that a class 2A/"half ton" truck has to have a 150/1500 badge on the side or that a class 3/"one ton" truck has to have a 350/3500 badge on the side even though there is no law stating so. It is only us who thinks anything with a 150/1500 badge that we deem as a "half ton" should be restricted to tow or haul X amount even though it is not a DOT regulation. Why is that?

So post up stating why do you yourself still call it a "half ton" and what to you designates it as a "half ton"? As a bonus, if you don't think we should call them "half tons" or "three quarter tons" then what term do you think we should?


For me, I think we should do away with these old terms and call them by their actual DOT truck classes like class 2A, class 2B, Class 3, and so on based on their GVWR. After all, that is how the actual government and truck manufacturers classify them, so why don't we?

***EDIT: I think I have to say this because some are not understanding what I am saying. I am not saying that the manufacturers should rename their trucks from 1500,2500, and 3500 to class 2a, class 2b, and class 3. No where am I saying that nor am I saying that the manufacturer has to do anything extra to their trucks than what they're doing now.

What I am talking about is changing the incorrect and half a century old terms that we , the consumer, use to identify trucks. Why? For one it has long passed its legitimacy. For two, how people distinguish a truck to be called a "half ton" and such is not the same from person to person to where the class system is very specific. Some people say the number on the door determines whether a truck is called a "half ton" and such, but there are trucks like the Tacoma, Tundra, or Titan XD that don't have numbers so how do you know where they go? Others may say it is payload that determines if a truck is called a "half ton" and such, but there are midsize trucks that have more payload that what you would call a "half ton" and there some "half tons" that have more payload than what you would call a "three quarter ton".

The only cut and dry way to classify trucks is by the class system since it uses GVWR, and no class can overlap each other. You will never have a class 1 truck having a higher GVWR than a class 2a truck and so on like you would with using the payload method determining what term to use on a truck. Like I said, it is very cut and dry.

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  • This: From Wikipedia (Pickup Truck):

    In the American domestic market pickups are general categorized as:
    Compact: introduced in the United States in the 1960s, compact pickups have a smaller footprint, and may have four cylinder engines.
    Full-size, or half ton: In the United States the best selling type is the full-sized, or half-ton. These carry the designation "1500" in the case of the Chevrolet Silverado, GMC Sierra, and Ram, and "150" in Ford's terminology.
    Heavy duty: Heavier-duty pickups are designated 2500, 3500 (or F-250, F-350), and so on.


    The terms half-ton and three-quarter-ton are a remnant from a time when the number referred to the maximum cargo capacity by weight.


    And this from Consumer Reports (referenced in the Wikipedia article above:
    http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/pickup-trucks/buying-guide.htm

    Pickup nomenclature. By far the biggest-selling full-sized pickups, sometimes called half-ton trucks, carry the designation "1500" in the case of the Chevrolet Silverado, GMC Sierra, and Ram, and "150" in Ford's parlance. Heavier-duty trucks are designated 2500, 3500 (or F-250, F-350) and so forth. The terms "half-ton" for the 1500s and three-quarter-ton" for the 2500s are widely used but obsolete: a holdover from decades ago when the number referred to the maximum cargo weight capacity. Conversationally, the 2500-series and heavier trucks are known as heavy duty," but that's not technically correct, either. The U.S. Government considers any truck that weighs less than 14,000 pounds, including 3500-series, to be a light-duty truck. But we'll continue to refer to 2500-series trucks as "heavy-duty," as these are serious workhorses.
  • spud1957 wrote:
    Even Ford calls them half tons @ 37 seconds

    F150 ad



    Good find, I guess for marketing that call them that since the consumers still do, but I know for a fact that internally they don't. Well, at least at the two truck manufacturers I worked for.
  • I called my little Mazda trucks quarter tons back when I owned them for lack of a better term. I prefer to call trucks by class today and let marketing call them what they want. Some people may argue by calling trucks by GVWR class you don't know the payload, but I will argue back that anyone that has not taken their truck across the scales also doesn't know their payload. You would think the difference in trucks seems to follow Class, but marketing can always derate a higher class vehicle to sell in a needed niche. There will always be the question if the vehicle you own is really in the selected class by design or due to sales.
  • coolmom42 wrote:
    dshelley wrote:
    Old expressions die hard.


    Yep.

    And it's convenient.... the designations give you an idea of relative size/capacity, at least.


    True, but so does saying class 2A, class 2B, or class 3.
  • dshelley wrote:
    Old expressions die hard.


    Yep.

    And it's convenient.... the designations give you an idea of relative size/capacity, at least.
  • dshelley wrote:
    Old expressions die hard.



    That is the truth. That is like how some people still refer to an oils grade as "weight" even though the SAE J300/J306 standard that gave oils their grade back in 1926 stated that the "W" after the oil's grade number meant it's graded viscosity in winter or colder temperatures. There is no such thing as oil being refer to as "weight" according to the very standard that made the oil grades and yet consumers and some retailers will still call it " 30 weight".


    Although in that case it wasn't an old expression. It was a completely wrong one because the consumers assumed the "W" meant weight and called it as such. Just because "that is they way it is always done" doesn't mean it is correct.