"Half ton" 5th wheel for couples. Cougar lite 25bhs.

Door side windows; missed that one. Good spot.

This is hard.

Well you might consider a 27RKS, no outside kitchen, but a large rear kitchen. Not a true direct view of the Entertainment center, but a possible swing out bracket could fix.

The pluses are Door side windows, and large rear kitchen, at 30'-5".

Specs for 27RKS
Shipping Weight 7045
Carrying Capacity 2955
Hitch 1230
Length 30' 5"
Height 11' 11"
Fresh Water 43
Waste Water 30
Gray Water 60
LPG 60
Tire Size ST225/75R15D

You post title made me think you had 1/2 ton.

Enjoy your RV and your 2500!

Here is a list of payloads that are found on the yellow sticker on the door jam. It’s 5th grade math and not some sort of rocket since to staying within your truck specs. These figures are with one 200 lbs driver and 250 lbs hitch with a 5er loaded ready to go camping. If you added passengers or misc stuff to the truck you need to subtract those weights. The 5er weight isn't dry weight but ready to go camping weight.

The numbers below came from Tow Planner - Towing Planner

Payload = 1200
You're adding approximately 450 lbs. to the truck. You have 750 lbs. of payload capacity. Fifth wheels typically have 20% - 25% pin weight which gives you a maximum loaded camper weight of 3,000 - 3,750 lbs.

Payload = 1400
You're adding approximately 450 lbs. to the truck. You have 950 lbs. of payload capacity. Fifth wheels typically have 20% - 25% pin weight which gives you a maximum loaded camper weight of 3,800 - 4,750 lbs.

Payload = 1600
You're adding approximately 450 lbs. to the truck. You have 1,150 lbs. of payload capacity. Fifth wheels typically have 20% - 25% pin weight which gives you a maximum loaded camper weight of 4,600 - 5,750 lbs.

Payload = 1800
You're adding approximately 450 lbs. to the truck. You have 1,350 lbs. of payload capacity. Fifth wheels typically have 20% - 25% pin weight which gives you a maximum loaded camper weight of 5,400 - 6,750 lbs.

Payload = 2000
ou're adding approximately 450 lbs. to the truck. You have 1,550 lbs. of payload capacity. Fifth wheels typically have 20% - 25% pin weight which gives you a maximum loaded camper weight of 6,200 - 7,750 lbs.

Payload = 2200
You're adding approximately 450 lbs. to the truck. You have 1,750 lbs. of payload capacity. Fifth wheels typically have 20% - 25% pin weight which gives you a maximum loaded camper weight of 7,000 - 8,750 lbs.

Payload 2400
You're adding approximately 450 lbs. to the truck. You have 1,950 lbs. of payload capacity. Fifth wheels typically have 20% - 25% pin weight which gives you a maximum loaded camper weight of 7,800 - 9,750 lbs.

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A lot of people look at the Towing Capacities to buy their 5er but those don't pertain to 5er as much as they do travel trailer. Truck manufacture use a 10% tongue weight for a trailer hooked to the bumper to get those high tow ratings capacity (ie 11,500). When they do post 5th wheel specs they use 15% pin weight which in the real world almost impossible to find a 5er at 15%, most 5er will run between 20 and 25%.

tomkaren13 wrote:
Seems like some what heavy for a 1/2 ton truck. Over 7K dry! Our 1/2 truck hated a 5th just over 6K,

There are a few "lite" and now "x lite" models from various manufacturers who have started marketing them as "half ton towable." All I know is not my half ton. I'm now running a 2500.

We were looking around one day and were directed by a salesman to a row of 5ers that he said, "All of those are half ton towable." None had GVWR of less than 11,500, and all shipped at more than 9000.

Seems like some what heavy for a 1/2 ton truck. Over 7K dry! Our 1/2 truck hated a 5th just over 6K,

A few months ago we traded our rear entrance with rockers by the door and did not like it as the door way always seemed obstructed with shoes or other things. You came into the door and the rocker was right there tight to your left. There was no closet for coats or shoes. The rockers were a chore to strap down before travelling. Go for the recliners if you can.

I realize this is a fiver and our Cougar is a TT, but I have found that I really dislike that chair that can obstruct the entrance.. It always seems to be in the way, especially if it's one of those swivel rockers.

Fabguy wrote:
There is just the two of us as well. We went with the Cougar 280RLS.

Have had it only about 9 months now and still consider it to be perfect for our needs.

As for the "checklist" above, we cannot access the bathroom or the fridge with the slides in. BUT all we need to do is open the curbside slide half way and we can get through the whole living quarters.

And I'll never understand the dislike for curbside slides. They are generally pretty small on the outside, but make a HUGE amount of space on the inside.

No windows looking into your camp site. Sitting on the dining room table looking at what cooking next door and if you have kids you can't see them playing in your campsite.

rhagfo wrote:

Fabguy wrote:

TNrob wrote:
I guess "our needs" is a big question we're all trying to answer as we consider our options. We're after small for long weekends in often old ccc parks in the southeast. We might need something different as our needs change.

Cheers...

Ours is "small" by 5er standards.

We are planning on doing months at a time in this thing, and we have already done MANY weekends in Washington State Parks.

:h

I would say mid-sized 32' and just over 12,000# GVWR.

Ours is the same size, just a different layout, we spent four months in it hosting last year without an issue. We plan on going full time in it next year.

OK... Mid sized.