Would you buy diesel again?

JimK-NY wrote:


I have driven a diesel since 2010. Never had an issue with fuel spilling on my hands or feet or anywhere else. I get better mileage with diesel and hence have a longer cruising range.

I don't spill it, but given it's nature, it will often be on the grip from previous sloppy handling.

Hi.... I have a 5th wheel and the TV is a 2016 dodge diesel 2500. Yes to a diesel for a 5th wheel ...plenty of power for up hill and exhaust brake to help on the down side of hills. Jim 20th

HadEnough wrote:

SoonDockin wrote:
My biggest beef with Diesel is the better than even chance you get it on your hands and feet when fueling. As I shop for a new Diesel truck, my wife reminds me how I bitched about diesel everywhere at most pumps. My old Solera needed fuel every 200ish miles. I look forward to having closer to 400 miles between fill ups.

What IS the story with this?

Seems like diesel people (probably in commercial vehicles) are just slobs.

They get it all over the ground, on the handle, on the pump itself.

I don't spill it. Who does?

The gas spills just as much however the gasoline evaporates and does not create the mess that the diesel does.

JimK-NY wrote:
The braking is not at all similar. The diesel brake is effective. Engine braking with a gasser hardly does anything.

I guess you haven’t used engine braking in a Ford gasoline engine. Slowing the vehicle down or keeping a lower speed without touching the brakes is exactly what a tow haul button will do on Fords from little vehicles all of the way up to Class As.

Back to the topic. First, like most people on this thread, I don’t have a 2015.

Modern diesels with emissions want to stay warmed up and in higher RPMs. If that matches your driving, a diesel could be just fine. However, if you plan to idle and drive slower speeds a lot without and work for the diesel to do, you will likely clog the emissions add ons on your new diesel. You’ll experience regens at times that might not be convenient.

Of course, if you live somewhere that doesn’t check for emissions and you modify your diesel, you are going to experience an engine that no gasoline engine can touch either going slow or fast.

In my area of the country, the fuel cost is pretty much a wash. Diesels get better mpg and gasoline costs less. However, the tanks are the same size so diesel has more range.

Finally, all diesels have turbos so they perform much better at elevation. If you regularly drive at higher elevations, you might want to consider that unless you drive slow.

burningman wrote:
The downhill braking provided by an exhaust brake is similar to the gas engine’s with its throttle closed. It’s just shutting off the air post-engine rather than pre-engine.

I would get a gas truck if I buy a new one. They’ve regulated the economy out of new diesels.

The braking is not at all similar. The diesel brake is effective. Engine braking with a gasser hardly does anything.

I had a 2010 Ram with the Cummins diesel. The 2010 had minimal emissions controls and was the last year Cummins got by without DEF. Now I have a 2018 with DEF and extensive emissions controls. I drove the 2010 80,000 miles and the 2018 for 14,000 miles. I have the same camper and have recorded every drop of diesel I have used. The 2018 seems to have equivalent power and gets 15% better mileage.

HadEnough wrote:

SoonDockin wrote:
My biggest beef with Diesel is the better than even chance you get it on your hands and feet when fueling. As I shop for a new Diesel truck, my wife reminds me how I bitched about diesel everywhere at most pumps. My old Solera needed fuel every 200ish miles. I look forward to having closer to 400 miles between fill ups.

What IS the story with this?

Seems like diesel people (probably in commercial vehicles) are just slobs.

They get it all over the ground, on the handle, on the pump itself.

I don't spill it. Who does?

People are slobs regardless of fuel choice (e.g. public restrooms). It’s just that gasoline evaporates and diesel leaves a slimy layer behind.

SoonDockin wrote:
My biggest beef with Diesel is the better than even chance you get it on your hands and feet when fueling. As I shop for a new Diesel truck, my wife reminds me how I bitched about diesel everywhere at most pumps. My old Solera needed fuel every 200ish miles. I look forward to having closer to 400 miles between fill ups.

I have driven a diesel since 2010. Never had an issue with fuel spilling on my hands or feet or anywhere else. I get better mileage with diesel and hence have a longer cruising range.

SoonDockin wrote:
My biggest beef with Diesel is the better than even chance you get it on your hands and feet when fueling. As I shop for a new Diesel truck, my wife reminds me how I bitched about diesel everywhere at most pumps. My old Solera needed fuel every 200ish miles. I look forward to having closer to 400 miles between fill ups.

What IS the story with this?

Seems like diesel people (probably in commercial vehicles) are just slobs.

They get it all over the ground, on the handle, on the pump itself.

I don't spill it. Who does?

Not unless I'd be pulling over 10,000 lbs. The newer emissions type diesels can be problematic with higher maintenance costs especially compared to the older ones . Depending on where you live, diesel can be considerably more costly to buy and the driving economy is offset by this and the initial premium to buy the diesel. My calculations showed cost per mile to drive was only one cent per mile in favor of the diesel. But when I factor in the higher maintenance costs (oil changes and fuel filters) and minor inconveniences like DEF and fuel additives in cold climates, longer engine warm ups and regen idiosyncrasies, the temperamental nature of the emissions system components as well as simply finding diesel in remote places, I favor the gas engine technology especially with the large displacement engines producing well over 400 HP and sufficient torque to do the job. And let's face it, in 50,000 miles how much of that is actually utilizing the engine braking advantage of the diesel ?

If you WORK your truck often enough yes i would own diesel. If not definitely not. Cost of the engine, cost of the fuel compared to gas. Still own both, My opinion.