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Just for the sake of clarity when it comes to the words Pacific is using:
"We purchase all of our steel products at US steel mills across the country"
-That very specifically avoids saying they purchase product made by/in US mills or are 100% US steel. They are only saying they buy products 'from' the mills.IE: I can buy a Toyota at a US car lot. Doesn't mean it was made there.
"We carry and extensive range of domestic made products"
- I'm sure they do. But again, they specifically don't say " They carry only domestic products. This is like the classic "Made with 100% real beef" Everyone assumes "with" means "only with" but it doesn't. "With only indicates "Real beef" is an ingredient. The product in fact made with 100% real pork, 100% real soy protein, 100% whatever else they stuff in there.
"This in turn reinforces our strong relationships with US steel mills"
- This is a duh, no schit statement. If you buy anything from any US retailer, regardless of where it's made, you're supporting that US retailer buy default.
"Pacific Steel & Recycling supports the Buy American effort"
-Again, more specific words. "Effort" meaning to try. Not to absolutely do, but to try. If they only bought "Made in the US" exclusively, they they'd say that. They don't say that because they don't just buy US made products/materials. But they sure as hell want you to think that and their marketing dept. and legal dept. know just how to word it so you interpret what they said one way but legally they aren't actually saying what you think they are saying.
"dedicated itself to remain 100% made in the USA"
- Yep, their product is 100% made in the USA. Their "product" is a completely built tie down. Does not in anyway mean what their product is made OF is 100% US made.
"Even the steel and aluminum are sourced from the United States"
-Same as above. You can "source" a Siberian tiger in the USA. You can "source" rocks from the Moon in the USA. Just means you bought it in the USA. Nothing more specific then that.
And while we're all engaged in this fruitful discourse. Country of origin does not automatically indicate a level of quality. China, for example, being the favourite target. Tools for example. "Made in China piece of schit...." "Of course it broke, it's made in China" Well, the reality is a crappy tool come out of a Chinese factory because a company, including US brands, spec'd it to come out that way. They want it built as cheap as possible so they can make as big a mark up on it as possible.
So Roma steel or Chinese steel can be as good or bad as the buyer wants it to be. And perhaps that's the difference between HD USA and HD Canada when it comes to there steel purchases.
Ok fellas, carry on the sweep.....
"We purchase all of our steel products at US steel mills across the country"
-That very specifically avoids saying they purchase product made by/in US mills or are 100% US steel. They are only saying they buy products 'from' the mills.IE: I can buy a Toyota at a US car lot. Doesn't mean it was made there.
"We carry and extensive range of domestic made products"
- I'm sure they do. But again, they specifically don't say " They carry only domestic products. This is like the classic "Made with 100% real beef" Everyone assumes "with" means "only with" but it doesn't. "With only indicates "Real beef" is an ingredient. The product in fact made with 100% real pork, 100% real soy protein, 100% whatever else they stuff in there.
"This in turn reinforces our strong relationships with US steel mills"
- This is a duh, no schit statement. If you buy anything from any US retailer, regardless of where it's made, you're supporting that US retailer buy default.
"Pacific Steel & Recycling supports the Buy American effort"
-Again, more specific words. "Effort" meaning to try. Not to absolutely do, but to try. If they only bought "Made in the US" exclusively, they they'd say that. They don't say that because they don't just buy US made products/materials. But they sure as hell want you to think that and their marketing dept. and legal dept. know just how to word it so you interpret what they said one way but legally they aren't actually saying what you think they are saying.
"dedicated itself to remain 100% made in the USA"
- Yep, their product is 100% made in the USA. Their "product" is a completely built tie down. Does not in anyway mean what their product is made OF is 100% US made.
"Even the steel and aluminum are sourced from the United States"
-Same as above. You can "source" a Siberian tiger in the USA. You can "source" rocks from the Moon in the USA. Just means you bought it in the USA. Nothing more specific then that.
And while we're all engaged in this fruitful discourse. Country of origin does not automatically indicate a level of quality. China, for example, being the favourite target. Tools for example. "Made in China piece of schit...." "Of course it broke, it's made in China" Well, the reality is a crappy tool come out of a Chinese factory because a company, including US brands, spec'd it to come out that way. They want it built as cheap as possible so they can make as big a mark up on it as possible.
So Roma steel or Chinese steel can be as good or bad as the buyer wants it to be. And perhaps that's the difference between HD USA and HD Canada when it comes to there steel purchases.
Ok fellas, carry on the sweep.....
