Thanks Jim, I do sign on to that account to keep it current on a regular basis...I heard the same rumor and I have a lot of my pics of projects there, would hate to let you all down. I had the fear that some jacks would be differant....but it does give some idea of how it works. jjinatx, your so very right in the mentioning of attention to detail as to how it comes apart...can't stress that enough. I have two separate pairs on mine and have yet to tear another one down yet so more info to come if it is differant...thanks all!