Ford's answers to the NHTSA 6.7 Investigation

NinerBikes wrote:


That there are still failures coming in on the Czech built pumps still points to defective design if you ask me. That I am sitting on a 100,000 mile warranty on my 2012 Touareg TDI design for the power train says that I probably won't be keeping that Touareg much past 100,000 miles, not with a potential $16,000 repair on my nickle if the HPFP goes south.

Bosch needs to string some managers and some board of directors strung up and issued some pink slips.

So it looks like the CP4 change hasn't changed enough. I would be thinking the same thing if I had the 'reg as well.

If Ford were replacing pumps "without hassle" and "under warranty" maybe I'd think about an ESP to 200k on a used truck. But they're not. And on top of that you'd have a failure and downtime.

So I've been looking into 2010+ Rams. Not the same pump, possibly other issues to be concerned about but hopefully not to the same magnitude.

Did I read in this thread somewhere that there were some recorded CP3 failures?

BenK wrote:

Agree, they still haven't found and/or are not addressing the root
cause...and...think, always thought, a very, very poor design that
speaks volumes of management compromises on $$$$$

#1, poor choice to use diesel as the lube
#2, poor cam/crank cavity design
#3, poor piston to crank/cam design and should be positively captured
#4, poor cavity/routing/valving/etc that creates cavitation potentials

Finally, VERY poor design team/management. Wonder what their background was
Ditto for their management and their decisions to date

PS...no longer MTB seriously...not going to full suspension just yet.
My Trek 8K (1996 hard tail) is my speed these days and more road cyclist
now (Madone 6.5 and an ~25yr old Trek 1K)

Wow more bike riders! We just keep popping up! Thank you for sharing those pics. Truth be told I've been on the road bike more because we moved further away from my "home" trails a few years ago. Still get out there from time to time but the miles are racking up on the skinny tired bike.

Not to detract at all from the brain power looking at this situation, but interesting that looking from the outside in it's been possible to point out some serious issues...

Ben do I remember correctly that you liked the fact that the CP3 has a gear drive before the piston side?