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Are we now wanting to debate global warming.
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briansue wrote:Ocean temperatures at any one location is much more dependent on local conditions rather than "climate change". It is pure fact, that no one can say they personally have experienced climate change due to the temperature at a given location. The reefs you reference could have died from pollution, a cooling trend, a shift in the gulf stream, a storm disturbing the seafloor, military exercises, disease, tourists diving in the area and damaging the coral and who knows what else. Blaming "global warming" or "climate change" is merely an uneducated guess.ridiculous claims.
Based on your post we have to assume you have spent many years diving in the Caribbean and have years of log books to substantiate your claim that the temperatures haven't risen. I guess our thermometers and all our friends thermometers are not as accurate as yours. We have also seen the coral dying as the scientists use stakes and rope to mark off specific areas of the reefs to study them and the deterioration. I also have years of video of the same reefs. But I am sure you have much more information than I do. And I am sure you can also dispute with scientific proof the 97% or the world's scientists who also say temps are rising. Note - ocean temps in specific areas are probably similar to weather changes - and again the argument that weather and climate are not the same. When scientists say ocean temps rise they are talking about the entire planet while I am talking about a specific area. The fact that reefs die is reason enough for concern. Note also that scientists make some of their hurricane predictions based on ocean temps and they put that info out every year prior to hurricane season. But don't bother to do any research because you might learn something.
Jan-01-2016 01:53 PM
Jan-01-2016 01:09 PM
ridiculous claims.
Jan-01-2016 09:10 AM
briansue wrote:It is "hard to understand" because people make ridiculous claims. Like " we are scuba divers and have noticed a rise in the sea temperatures personally.". Fact is, the EPA, a climate change advocacy agency, says sea temps have risen an average of .13 degrees per DECADE since 1900. Such a change would be inperceptable to a human. When people preface their arguments with BS claims, many people dismiss the entire argument, with good reason.
At this point in time no one should have to try to explain this - it has been said and done many times - and I am certainly not the one to try to do it - but I'll give it a shot.........
The terms global warming and climate change are not weather. The the terms may not be totally separate they are not the same. 97% of the world's scientists and experts on the topic agree - man made pollution is not only causing a hole in the ozone layer but other atmospheric changes that are causing things to happen to this planet that have not happened before. Those who still think this is not a fact need to do some research and delve further into the issue.
Not that many years ago we (Brian & Sue) were SCUBA divers and lived on an island in the Caribbean. Part of our equipment was thermometers to check water temperature on each dive. Divers record temperatures as well as many other facts that occur on each dive in a log book. We saw a noticeable increase in ocean temps over the years. We also saw coral reefs we visited on a regular basis begin to die off due to warmer temperature - coral only lives within a very narrow temperature range and with rapid temp changes it has not had time to adapt. We are not scientist but there have been many scientists who have studied this and observed much the same as we did. Does it matter? Reefs are the hatchery and nursery for many sea creatures - without reefs the oceans die. Among the smallest creatures in the ocean are plankton. They feed many things living in the ocean - the bottom of the food chain. But they also clean the air we breath and provide oxygen - just as trees in the forests etc. Due to rising ocean temps plankton is dying off around the globe. As they die there will be less oxygen - fact - look it up. Many other changes are occurring and folks keep talking about weather. It is not about weather. Why is that so hard to understand?
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Mexico Wanderer wrote:
Oooooooo Canada was a tropical swamp in prehistoric times. That was before of course, thick glaciers covered much of the land...
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