Joshua Tree

I have always wondered why everybody can use a grocery cart to carry their items out of themarket but can’t take a empty cart in when they arrive!

Locals were doing the basic maint. donating there time and $$$ for supplies but it was to overwhelming. Even had a group from the 29 Marine base emptying trash bins. As of yesterday all Campgrounds closed. Black Rock and Indian Cove are open but just for day use. Really affecting the local economy.

doxie, the LA Times has confirmed that volunteers have been doing their best. But there is a limit. The bathrooms are overflowing.

In several Calif parks, there is a terrible problem with illegal off-roading. No rangers, so here we go! When the cat is away, the mice will ATV.

It gives all ATVers a bad name, which is a shame. Most ATVers would never cut across country, off-road.

We have a friend in that area. She heard that volunteers were emptying the trash and cleaning restrooms, but had not seen it for herself, so didn't know if it was true or not.

Better to shut it down and preserve the place then allow it to be trashed by people that don't really care about the environment.

Roy&Lynne wrote:
Just heard on the news this morning that Joshua Tree campgrounds are now closed due to the Govt shutdown.

Joshua Tree is closed because of vandals and that people are such pigs and leave their trash everywhere. Doent anyone know about pack it in pack it out

Although not at the caliber of Joshua Tree, a local Army Corps campground I like (Liberty Glen, Healdsburg CA) is displaying 'warnings' that the shutdown may affect future reservations, FYI.

That's what L.A. Times said too.