A.C. PLUG ?

[Oasisbob]

Wanted to add one aditional A.C. plug to the interior of my HTT runnin off an existing plug. I was stopped in my tracks, and a bit baffled, as to how to get into the factory plug. Seems to be sealed in a white plastic cube on back side of plug. How does one get into this? Honestly I feel a bit stupid but.. Is it made by the rubex cube people or am I a dim bulb? Merry Christmas

[wmoses]

beemerphile1 wrote:
Two reasons a splice must be in a J-box. Safety and it is law (electrical code).

The J-box protects the connections from bumping, pulling, or other things that will cause the connections to come open and leave an exposed live wire to electrocute your children or someone else.

Also by electrical code, all J-boxes must be accessible. You cannot bury one behind a fixed panel.

Thanks for the clarification of your previous post.

[ADAD437]

RoyB wrote:
The low profile plastic 120VAC RV receptacles are designed to be placed in tight quarters and use the pinch type wire connections. The ROMEX is not cut off like the standard type 120VAC wiring boxes but stripped back and just layed into the fixture. Then we you press it all in place the knife type holders cuts thru each wire and makes contact. This will allow another daisy chain 120VAC receptacle further down the zone. These are not intended to be used as a junction point for additional receptacles.


Another thing to look out for is when these type of receptacles are used a small crease is put on the cable wiring and if you move it, it easily may break into. Then you gots more problems

If you have enough space you might replace the pinch type 120VAC receptacle for a PVC junction box and use a standard 120VAC house type receptacle with screw terminals. The problem of course is going to be finding enough slack in the presently used romex to do this.


Check in with LOWES electric dept and look at all the 120VAC house type items you can use to install another 120VAC receptacle

You may have to install a PVC junction where you have some slack behind your cabinet and install another 120VAC circuit using twist-on wire nut connections

Roy Ken

the low profile is what is used in rv's, i just ordered a new one to replace one that went bad on me. it got loose and was heating up.HERE is where i got mine. he has other colors.

[beemerphile1]

Two reasons a splice must be in a J-box. Safety and it is law (electrical code).

The J-box protects the connections from bumping, pulling, or other things that will cause the connections to come open and leave an exposed live wire to electrocute your children or someone else.

Also by electrical code, all J-boxes must be accessible. You cannot bury one behind a fixed panel.

[wmoses]

azchuckmo wrote:
It's a matter of safety, if a short should happen and a fire was to break out the box would contain.

Thanks. I was just wondering if there was some other reason that the previous respondent was getting at. Am actually aware of the use of junction boxes, although with them being plastic I hesitate to consider their efficacy. I my case my splice would be in a cupboard where only dishes are stored and where I would assure that the joints were properly shielded anyway.

[azchuckmo]

Why? What's the difference between a junction box and using connectors on the wire joints and then assuring the wires are inaccessible?

It's a matter of safety, if a short should happen and a fire was to break out the box would contain.

[wmoses]

Bobbo wrote:
Yes, if there is slack in the wire. That is a big "if."

The way I was thinking of the splice, it would create the slack in the wire. In other words the new receptacle would be "inserted" in the existing run to the existing outlet daisy-chaining them together. Would that not work?

[wmoses]

beemerphile1 wrote:
Any splice must be in a junction box.

Why? What's the difference between a junction box and using connectors on the wire joints and then assuring the wires are inaccessible?

[beemerphile1]

Any splice must be in a junction box.

[Bobbo]

wmoses wrote:
Can he not just cut the wire to the existing RV type outlet then splice in a new normal house type receptacle with box as space allows?

Yes, if there is slack in the wire. That is a big "if."

[westend]

Shallow old work box

15 amp duplex receptacle

Cut or pull wire from existing receptacle. Install box with wires through box entrances. Attach wires to new receptacle or establish pigtail-3 wire from existing wires to new receptacle. Install new wires from extension of branch to new receptacle.

This is one of the most basic, easy projects for DIY electrical work and you'd be surprised how often it's done wrong. Phases are 180, ground not connected, wires stripped too much....I could go on. Just look up the basic instructions on how to connect and don't overload the existing branch with too many higher watt devices.

BTW, learning electricalese, the language, is something to try for. A plug is a male cord end. A receptacle is what the plug goes into.

[wmoses]

Can he not just cut the wire to the existing RV type outlet then splice in a new normal house type receptacle with box as space allows?

[riven1950]

These receptacles are the same or at least very similar to what is in mobile homes. I have replaced a bunch of them with standard 110 receptacles, but there is usually some slack in the wires on a mobile home. If there is some slack in the wire and enough room ( depth ) you may be able to install a shallow ( remodel type ) box and a standard 110 receptacle to feed your new receptacle.

[beemerphile1]

I'm not sure what you are attempting to do.

This is a plug;


This is a receptacle;


Are you wanting to add another receptacle daisy chained from an existing receptacle?

RV and mobile home receptacles are enclosed and don't need to be in an electrical box. The typical receptacles in a house must be enclosed in an approved electrical box. Usually the RV receptacle must be pried apart.

[RoyB]

The low profile plastic 120VAC RV receptacles are designed to be placed in tight quarters and use the pinch type wire connections. The ROMEX is not cut off like the standard type 120VAC wiring boxes but stripped back and just layed into the fixture. Then we you press it all in place the knife type holders cuts thru each wire and makes contact. This will allow another daisy chain 120VAC receptacle further down the zone. These are not intended to be used as a junction point for additional receptacles.


Another thing to look out for is when these type of receptacles are used a small crease is put on the cable wiring and if you move it, it easily may break into. Then you gots more problems

If you have enough space you might replace the pinch type 120VAC receptacle for a PVC junction box and use a standard 120VAC house type receptacle with screw terminals. The problem of course is going to be finding enough slack in the presently used romex to do this.


Check in with LOWES electric dept and look at all the 120VAC house type items you can use to install another 120VAC receptacle

You may have to install a PVC junction where you have some slack behind your cabinet and install another 120VAC circuit using twist-on wire nut connections

Roy Ken